Enter The Trance

[RedYellow_OrpheusKii]

Beings have been seeking out methods of attaining 'states of trance' for most likely thousands and thousands of years. Some are more knowledged as to what "tools" to attain these states of trance may be.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm looking for a drug that serves as an ally to put me in a peaceful trance state where music can be absorbed on a new level. I don't want a crazy in-your-face scaryhigh that awakens you scratching your head wondering what the hell just went down. Just something mellow and inducing to a sleep-like trance state that would be defined as a truly enjoyable experience

[Lobsang]

Originally Posted by RedYellow_OrpheusKii

Beings have been seeking out methods of attaining 'states of trance' for most likely thousands and thousands of years. Some are more knowledged as to what "tools" to attain these states of trance may be.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm looking for a drug that serves as an ally to put me in a peaceful trance state where music can be absorbed on a new level. I don't want a crazy in-your-face scaryhigh that awakens you scratching your head wondering what the hell just went down. Just something mellow and inducing to a sleep-like trance state that would be defined as a truly enjoyable experience

Well I am sure it is not you that is looking for this. I am sure you meant to say SWIM. Please review the rules. SWIM might consider "museum" doses of LSD. Low doses. But as far as putting SWIM in a "trance". That is something that SWIM must do. No drug really does that. It is a mindset. But really low does of acid or another psychedelic could help a bit. I mean I guess high doses could trance someone.

Like yerars ago SWIM will never forget walking by this girl at a Grateful Dead concert. She was definately in a trance. She was just standing there with dilated pupils staring off into space. Repeating "Please buy my mushrooms"..."I've got good mushrooms". So SWIM walked up to her and asked about the mushrooms. But she could not break the trance and continued to stare off in space and repeat the mantra..."Please buy my mushrooms"...."I've got good mushrooms". Funny how we remember thins in life but that memory is imbeded in SWIM for some reason.

So drugs really do not achieve the trance state. The mind does. Now Shamans use certain visualization tools and methods like drumming at certain rates to enter the state. In Haiti the voodoo people work themselves into a most excellent trance state. They use a lot of drumming.

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The little story in this post amused me. And props for guiding a newbie.

[Mushroom Cloud]

If you want to go into a deep deep trance, you simply have to let go.
Realize, how you lighter and softer, and experience, as the everyday burden lifts and your soul is swimming in light and love and tenderness.
Now you may turn your mental eye to the inner light, that is growing from within, that light, that essentially will fill the whole unisverse, and as you watch that light growing and eating the universe, you may realize, that that light is your soul, your eternal being, floating, nourishing, destroying, creating the universe.

Now did that text change your feelings?
Exactly, you were in a light trance... just keep telling yourself stuff like that and you don t need anything for inducing trance.

[ShawnD]

Originally Posted by Lobsang

She was just standing there with dilated pupils staring off into space. Repeating "Please buy my mushrooms"..."I've got good mushrooms". So SWIM walked up to her and asked about the mushrooms. But she could not break the trance and continued to stare off in space and repeat the mantra..."Please buy my mushrooms"...."I've got good mushrooms".

At least you know she wasn't lying.

Pretty much anything can cause a trance. I often go into a trance when drinking alcohol in a relaxed position - heavily sedated, but not sleeping. Lots of people go into trances when taking Adderall or other amphetamines; that episode of King of the Hill where Bobby had ADD was a perfect depiction of this.

Also, you need to explain what you mean by music being on a "new level". This could mean a lot of things.

[Lettish]

Swim recommends ketamine. Its anesthetic effects puts Swim in a lovely relaxed, calm, mellow and tranquil state, at medium doses. Even at high doses when the CEVs (Closed Eye Visuals) are more than kicking in, the music is absolutely key to Swim's experience. Swiy literally hears (and sees!) every single beat, drum, riff and hihat.

Swim never has a come down or a rough couple days after using ketamine.

[Metomni]

"Funny how we remember thins in life but that memory is imbeded in SWIM for some reason."

Yeah, funny indeed, SWIM has random things like that that stick out in his mind forever. It's odd the things that our minds choose to hang onto. Was it random? Was it her hair? Was it the way she was talking? Were you soul mates or something? Did you know each other in a previous life? Was it just random bio chemical impulses going to a destination that is more sturdy than most? SWIM finds himself asking so many questions when something like that happens.

Anyway, SWIM finds high dose DXM and the peak of a mushroom trip to be excellent trance inducers.

[cra$h]

going on a differnet track, opiates could be trance inducing. better for meditating (but is there even a difference?) since you just become numb. mind and body becoming nothing but relaxed, and blank. you can sit and stare for an hour, looking right at something, and not have a single thought cross your mind. trance music would go well with this too, obviously. some good weed could do this too. just chillin by yourself high as hell could be a very intense trance.

[Antikhristos]

Originally Posted by cra$h

going on a different track, opiates could be trance inducing...

I second the opiate idea. I've had positive experiences with them and meditation.

I know these aren't drugs but have you tried to induce/enter trance states with drumming, spinning, chanting, dancing, etc? I know they aren't exactly "sleep-like" but I would suggest them all the same. Yoga (a few postures anyway) and pranayama might assist you in reaching a more "sleep-like" state though.

AK

[lostmente]

swiaaam finds Z drugs perfect for meditation, worries precipitate as hallucinations instead of thoughts and they can be delt with by generating counter hallucinations to interact with them...its grandiose but effective.