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Old 12-07-2008, 12:08
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Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

Swim knows that meth has a really bad name and is considered the devil of recreational drugs but swim thinks it shouldn't be demonized like this because although it might be a devil or a drug its also a saint if used properly.

Swim hardly ever touches the stuff but when he does he has all the usual euphoric effects and does loads of things he had been meaning to do but kept putting off but it always has long lasting positive effects. One night on meth always leaves him feeling real optimistic and happy about life for days afterwards.

Anyone else noticed this effect? In swims opinion meth is like a medicine for the mind if used moderately like once a month.

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Old 27-11-2008, 22:20
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

Reminding that human character is build by habit, so ;
As a therapeutic drug, Meth is very powerful to improve human character, ADHD people is an example, actually much more case can be. Euphoria, positive thinking, enthusiastic,..these the effect of meth that can used to do a human habit theraphy. But these effects also temp people to take it more and more, moreover if used without prescription like SwiM. Then this therapeutic drugs is changing function to recreational one, used without certain proper purpose, just to enjoy.
So, personally he just find 1 ; This crystal is the BEST DECONGESTANT he ever take, much more powerful then Pseudoephedrine HCl.
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Old 20-12-2008, 10:26
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

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Reminding that human character is build by habit, so ;
As a therapeutic drug, Meth is very powerful to improve human character, ADHD people is an example, actually much more case can be. Euphoria, positive thinking, enthusiastic,..these the effect of meth that can used to do a human habit theraphy. But these effects also temp people to take it more and more, moreover if used without prescription like SwiM. Then this therapeutic drugs is changing function to recreational one, used without certain proper purpose, just to enjoy.
So, personally he just find 1 ; This crystal is the BEST DECONGESTANT he ever take, much more powerful then Pseudoephedrine HCl.
This might come as a surprise to some (it sure as hell did to me when I found out), but methamphetamine is available in prescription form. Brand name "Desoxyn" is used to treat severe cases of ADD/ADHD. So its therapeutic effects have been recognized by the FDA, earning it Schedule II status in the USA.

In people that naturally have dopamine deficiencies, meth can alleviate stress, especially in social circumstances. However, in individuals with fairly normal balances, hardcore stimulants (including all amphetamines and cocaine) have shown to increase social anxiety and general paranoia even after its stimulating effects have worn off.

MDMA is believed to do the opposite in controlled amounts, which is why the Fed. is currently testing to see if it's an effective treatment for PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder).
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

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MDMA is believed to do the opposite in controlled amounts, which is why the Fed. is currently testing to see if it's an effective treatment for PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder).

Bout time they started figuring it out
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Bout time they started figuring it out
The problem is that it's still uncertain whether or not methylenedioxymethamphetamine has neurotoxic potential. One of the main arguments against using MDMA therapeutically, is fear of the concept of pure ecstasy being able to reach the streets (the way amphetamines did through pills like Adderall). This drug is entirely unique in its effects, working primarily with the neurotransmitter, serotonin. Unreasonably high levels of serotonin present in the brain results in the development of serotonin syndrome, ultimately resulting in death.
However the counter-argument (which of course goes unmentioned) is that methamphetamine is available in prescription form, called Desoxyn. Meth is known to be neurotoxic, in contrast to the theory that still shrouds MDMA.

Point is: more testing needs to be done, and the FDA has to be open to discovering therapeutic potential of research chemicals.
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

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This might come as a surprise to some (it sure as hell did to me when I found out), but methamphetamine is available in prescription form. Brand name "Desoxyn" is used to treat severe cases of ADD/ADHD. So its therapeutic effects have been recognized by the FDA, earning it Schedule II status in the USA.

In people that naturally have dopamine deficiencies, meth can alleviate stress, especially in social circumstances. However, in individuals with fairly normal balances, hardcore stimulants (including all amphetamines and cocaine) have shown to increase social anxiety and general paranoia even after its stimulating effects have worn off.

MDMA is believed to do the opposite in controlled amounts, which is why the Fed. is currently testing to see if it's an effective treatment for PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder).
Yeah, swim stated in the above post about Desoxyn, BUT it is almost next to impossible to get prescribed to it!
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

swim agrees with you horsebucket, swim is a total ass most the time and kinda dont give a shit. but a night smoking a bowl or hell even off foil leaves swim happy as hell and loving everyone crazy
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

Any positive experience with light non-critical views does a mind good....Swim suggests E over ish, it just makes sense, ish isn't a good high...Swiy just feels like he's having a great time, hes not ACTUALLY having a good time his brain is just f*cked into thinking he feels good. It took swim a long time to realize that.

Seritonin > Dopamine
Good mood----Feel rewarded for nothing
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

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Good mood----Feel rewarded for nothing
Base in the place
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Same dopamine acton though.

The above quote is another very elequently put reason, why base isn't in Y's place these days.

Y's talking sauce-pan says a maxim, about the downside, for all speed freaks alike,

"It's not when you're on it, but when you're off it,"
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

Yes, he like E more than Meth as well, but if wanna talk about it, he think better if swiUS change this topic to something like "E and Meth, which is the superior?", or "E kick the Meth ass, isn't it?".
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

Swim's experience in meth having a medicinal use was when Swim used it to make the voices go away. Swim is schizophrenic and has heard voices all his life. Sometimes they have been more pronounced than others. Swim discovered one day that using meth would give him silence. No voices would bother Swim when he was high on meth.

But there was a downside to this. When Swim would be crashing and trying to catch up on sleep, the voices would come back louder than before. Progressively they got worse.

Now Swim is taking Abilify and still using meth. No voices upon crashing. Swim is happy.
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

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Swim knows that meth has a really bad name and is considered the devil of recreational drugs but swim thinks it shouldn't be demonized like this because although it might be a devil or a drug its also a saint if used properly.

Swim hardly ever touches the stuff but when he does he has all the usual euphoric effects and does loads of things he had been meaning to do but kept putting off but it always has long lasting positive effects. One night on meth always leaves him feeling real optimistic and happy about life for days afterwards.

Anyone else noticed this effect? In swims opinion meth is like a medicine for the mind if used moderately like once a month.
Swim thought they were the only one who got this way!!! Since the people who do meth around swim always get crazy and stupid.

Swim was diagnosed ADHD when she was 9 Swim is prescribed Adderal, has been on Ritalin in the past but they stop working after a week or so.


Swim went to 13 different schools for fighting, and was finally was sent to a behavioral school because she was kicked out of the public schools. Swim dropped out in high school. When swim finally found the wonderful thing called meth, she went back to school, got a job, got a car, graduated on time even though she was way behind, and now is in college.

She only makes friends when she is on it, and actually can be optimistic.

Best thing ever happened to her. Currently trying to get prescribed to Desoxyn.
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

i agree horsebucket, but people like you i think r probably the minority. i know for swim the extremely positive effects were just to good and to tempting to use responsibly. i have to admit i am slightly envious and wish i were a bit stronger so swim could still use it. maybe someday
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Re: Therapeutic Use of Methamphetamine

SWIM's never intentionally taken meth before, he's happy enough with pharmaceutical speed. But he could see how it could be benificial, after all it is essentially just amphetamine that's high on amphetamine.

But what about neurotoxic effects? Would they still be present in low, oral doses? Or would they be insignificant enough to be a viable alternative to adderall?
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