2C-I In The News

[chillinwill]

I'm not sure if this has already been posted but SWIM is sorry to see this appearing in the media

From: http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_articl...?storyid=52508

If you think drug dealers are hanging out on street corners or near schools targeting children, it's time for a wake-up call. Thousands of them are now reaching out through the internet.

That's the case with a relatively new drug that's dangerous but for sale online.
Packages filled with coffee first raised suspicion at UPS.

But the coffee was meant to conceal something else: Drugs. But it wasn't something detectives had ever seen before

When we first saw it -- we were thinking meth -- although it's a little finer, powdery form than meth usually is," Narcotics Officer Sgt. Bill Evans said.

They traced the packages to a northern California drug dealer ? Zachary Michael Fisher -- who told detectives the strange substance was something called 2C-I. Its full name is 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine.

Popular in Canada and Europe, it's also sometimes called the spice. But no matter what you call it 2C-I is a powerful psychedelic -- similar in effects to LSD.

One person who used 2C-I describes the effects: It takes like 20 minutes to kick in -- you get energy, you wanna do something, things start to morph, and you see colors - everything seems weird."

Eric is a teen did 2C-I, until his uncle discovered a vial of it in his school backpack. When I found it in his backpack, and when he finally started talking about it he said -- well don't worry about it, it's not even illegal Erics uncle, Kris, said. Lots of kids are starting to do this.

But it is illegal. New on the DEA radar, 2C-I and its cousins fall under the Federal Analog Act. Which means if it looks like and acts like an illegal drug -- it is illegal.

The internet is now a great street corner for drug dealers. Many drug dealers can now enter the privacy of a home, and entice and sell their destruction to children," Drug Enforcement Agency agent Gordon Taylor said.

And these drugs are unknown for their addiction potential, allergic reaction, or overdose threshold. We don't know yet if patients are going to be stimulated -- as is the case with cocaine -- will they develop a lot of paranoia and therefore a lot of violence with its use?? St. Vincent Charity Hospital Dr. Chris Adelman said. We just don't know that yet. But those are concerns.

The websites that sell the drugs send mixed messages as well.

One page declares them as "quality research chemicals for personal and business use? while saying in very small print on the disclaimer the chemicals are ?offered for laboratory and manufacturing use only."

2C-I comes in several forms, pill, powder or clear liquid.
The DEA is trying to prosecute several research chemical vendors for selling it.
© 2008 WKYC-TV

Reputation Comments on this post:

Thanks for sharing.

[radiometer]

I think it's hilarious that people would package 2C-I with coffee and send it via UPS in an attempt at stealth. That's stupid on several levels. Great going, Scarface!

[Panthers007]

"Meet my 'Little Friend'...FOX News!"

That's an oldie, I believe. In that they (media) have identified this research-chemical as a drug, if any of the news team is caught with it - they can be arrested under the Federal Analogue Act...<licking a stamp in Peoria sat Daisy-Mae Fishbone...>

[N0ly]

Originally Posted by chillinwill

Many drug dealers can now enter the privacy of a home, and entice and sell their destruction to children

Really? they're going to add a think about the children element to this. Swim doesn't know of any research chemical sites aimed at children with cartoon characters making it look cool to ingest random substances, Swim has a hard enough time trying to find any when he is looking for them specifically. The probability of a child stumbling across a site, knowing what it was they were selling and placeing an order are just laughable. I hate how they use the children to instill fear into parents everywhere.

[chillinwill]

Originally Posted by N0ly

Really? they're going to add a think about the children element to this. Swim doesn't know of any research chemical sites aimed at children with cartoon characters, Swim has a hard enough time trying to find any when he is looking for them specifically. The probability of a child stumbling across a site, knowing what it was they were selling and placeing an order are just laughable. I hate how they use the children to instill fear into parents everywhere.

SWIM totally agrees with this....there is absolutely no way that a child would just happen to stumble across a site selling RC's....there are no random advertisments popping up unless you were specifically typing in the chemical name or CAS or whatever and even then, its rare that one would pop up....SWIM thinks that the only realistic way a child would come across a site selling this is if someone in their family or someone else had already been on their computer looking for RC's

[Bajeda]

Could you please add line-breaks to the articles you post. It isn't too difficult and it makes them much more readable. Just start from the bottom and put a space between each paragraph.

[Lobsang]

But it is illegal. New on the DEA radar, 2C-I and its cousins fall under the Federal Analog Act. Which means if it looks like and acts like an illegal drug -- it is illegal.

Yes the DEA has manipulated the term "analog" to mean just about anything that has an effect. It matters not if the substance is a molecular analog. So basically anything that makes one trip i8s illegal according to them. Very shady indeed.

[zera]

Originally Posted by Lobsang

Yes the DEA has manipulated the term "analog" to mean just about anything that has an effect. It matters not if the substance is a molecular analog. So basically anything that makes one trip i8s illegal according to them. Very shady indeed.

The DEA isn't the organization that sets the law. Congress passes the law and the courts interpret it, the DEA or any executive branch agency's job is simply to enforce it. Asking the DEA to determine legal ambiguities is like asking the janitor to explain the engineering design principles behind a vacuum. These reporters don't even have the basic level knowledge presented in a 10th grade civics class.

[Alfa]

This news rapport is from 2005.

[Burnt]

the analogue act is a discrace in terms scientific inquiry. when someone makes a new compound that may have activity because its simlar to other compounds when does it actually become illegal? when someone takes the compound and confirms its active? scientists and people involved in drug discovery make new compounds that are related to controlled substances all the time. the law is so stupid.

[Lobsang]

The DEA isn't the organization that sets the law. Congress passes the law and the courts interpret it, the DEA or any executive branch agency's job is simply to enforce it. Asking the DEA to determine legal ambiguities is like asking the janitor to explain the engineering design principles behind a vacuum. These reporters don't even have the basic level knowledge presented in a 10th grade civics class.

I would have to take issue with this. The DEA interprets the law as does the FDA. It is done all the time. These agencies interpret the law and take action on individuals. Then the courts have to deal with it. So yes one has recourse in court if one can afford it. The interpratation of the law by the DEA can have you in jail in a flash. The interpretation of the law by the FDA can shut your business down very fast. This all happens before one is in court. So the courts have the foinal say but these agencies do in fact interpret the law all the time. It is common place.

[ChoppedandFaded]

Poorly written.

[radiometer]

^ That is such a given with these articles that it's hardly worth commenting on.

Thanks for fixing the line breaks, this is Much easier to read now.

[Panthers007]

Regards the DEA not making laws, but Congress has to pass...etc. Any Congressperson who votes against such might just as well get their hat and clean out their desk. Their opponent in the next election will make mince-meat out of them.

[Lobsang]

Regards the DEA not making laws, but Congress has to pass...etc. Any Congressperson who votes against such might just as well get their hat and clean out their desk. Their opponent in the next election will make mince-meat out of them.

Yeah...That's why I loved Alaska so much back in the day. The judges and law makers were all extremely pro freedom to a high degree. To an almost rebellious extent. And in many cases that is still true. So if you were against freedoms like marijuana you were an outcast. You would end up tossed out at election.