Health - Heart rate and relapse

[ebenn760]

I;m sure this subject has been brought up before... i'd appreciate a link to a precious thread.

Swim has been off of any kind of drugs other than alchohol for over 2 months, but this person did about .5 gram of cola in one line after about 5 beers. Swims heart rate is about 120/m and is a 25y old male in decent shape, is this something to worry about? and what is the usual lethal heart rate for someone like this?

ebenn760 added 49 Minutes and 9 Seconds later...

precious...i meant previous

[Burnt]

its takes about a gram to kill someone so dont worry about it youll be fine. anyway the LD50 in mice runs at about 95.1 mg/kg so if your a 60 kilo or so person. thaaats 5.7 grams? that sounds really high. in dogs its about 13mg/kg thats .78 of a gram. not sure route of admin in those studies if oral im sure its lower nasally. anyway anything over half gram shouldn't be done if high quality (theres no need) and if its shitty quality why waste your $

[tobid]

On the other hand half a g in one hit after a couple of months off is pretty hefty and should probably be avoided. Swim has only done that much in one go once and that was when he had a high tolerance and the ching wasn't particularly great, even so it had quite an effect. No idea on what's lethal with regard to heart rate but 120 bpm sounds high and probably unsafe. How long did it remain that high for?

[xstalkrx]

120 is NOT that high.

[tobid]

Actually that's true, swim is a bit high and was thinking of something else entirely. In some people 120 bpm is normal, however swim has noticed that when holding his hand over his heart when on coke his heart beat feels a lot faster than it actually is. So there's an embarrassing volte face.

[xstalkrx]

a male...20-30 years of age can get his heart rate to 190-200 while sprinting.

obviously, cocaine is not good for anyone in any amount, but I would start getting concerned if ones heart rate approached the 180-200 range.

swims heart rate was 160-170 one night after alcohol, coke, and nicotine. Swim had no pain or discomfort, however swim did not like this. swim has been clean for months since.

[ihavequestions]

when swim used to have panic attacks his heart rate was at 125 when sitting down. most people when running try to get there heart rate up to around 150. so 120 is definetly not dangerous. its just high, but in the normal and safe range. if swiy continues to worry it could go up. swim heard once that once it goes to 200 its time to call for help.

[General Grievous]

Imo one line of .5 is too much to be taken especially after 2 years abstaining...wouldve been smarter to ration that halfie to last u at least 2-4 hours. why were you in such a rush to hoover a whole dub?

[yumfatbig1]

Swim's normal rate is 60bpm after an intravenous hit it may get to 160 but not for long. Swim does not feel concerned about this because running up a flight of stairs will do that.

Swim remembers sampling some max quality cola many years ago and even with swims cast iron constitution, swim would say that 1/3 of 1/4 is right on the limit. Swim feels that a 1/4g of that quality injected would be lethal, although swim does not intend to test this. Swim has injected 1/2g of ordinary street gear without any drama.

Having said that, apart from the LD there is also the possibility of instant cardiac arrest. People have died from a single line.

[ihavequestions]

Originally Posted by yumfatbig1

apart from the LD there is also the possibility of instant cardiac arrest. People have died from a single line.

swim has heard of people dying suddenly from very small doses. how is this possible though? swim doesnt see how a person could die from a single line without first having a heart or blood pressure problem prior to snorting the line. and if there IS a possibilty of sudden death like that, are there any statistics of 1 in how many could suffer from this? what about any reason explaining why this can happen?

[yumfatbig1]

swim was just speculating here but swim thought it's called toxic shock syndrome. However swim now understands that tss is caused by a bacterial infection. swim though that the Len Bias death was the same thing. But swim appears to be incorrect.

Nevertheless it does not appear that Len Bias was not a regular cocaine user, or he would surely have been nabbed. It does not appear that he had much at all. Media reports at the time suggest it was only a line. But anyway he was a 6' 8" and 210lbs, obviously healthy.

[ihavequestions]

Originally Posted by yumfatbig1

swim was just speculating here but swim thought it's called toxic shock syndrome. However swim now understands that tss is caused by a bacterial infection. swim though that the Len Bias death was the same thing. But swim appears to be incorrect.

Nevertheless it does not appear that Len Bias was not a regular cocaine user, or he would surely have been nabbed. It does not appear that he had much at all. Media reports at the time suggest it was only a line. But anyway he was a 6' 8" and 210lbs, obviously healthy.

sudden death from coke seems to be very rare. in the way that "sudden death" from MDMA is are. so swim thought to himself that isnt there a possibility that the people who die or have a severe reaction to coke may just have an allergy to cocaine? i mean its rare enough and seems like a possibility that its just that.

[yourimaginaryfriend]

i'm sure it can happen, but the likelihood is probably about the same as having a severe fatal reaction to eating nuts.