Recovering from a Psychedelic train wreck

[Fantasian]

Not sure if this is in the right place but i figured recovery was pretty accurate.
I searched the forum earlier trying to find some advice on how to reintegrate a very bad trip. SWIF has tripped a couple of times and various substances but on one particular occasion on a high dose of DPT he has an absolute train wreck where he was trying to help his girlfriend feel better because she just really didnt appreciate the experience. 1 Hour of her sobbing uncontrolably hating the experience and SWIF trying to redirect her trip to much futility made the whole experience quite negative. A big part of SWIF doesnt really want to trip again because much of those emotions and feelings are imprinted. SWIF is alright in day to day life but was wondering how others have overcome an experience like this so he could try and trip again without the anxieties of the previous trip. Any advice is welcome as well as experiences on how other overcame their own bad trips.

[sylenth]

smurf has had this alot of times, that's why smurf posted the thread about silence music or company. smurf has had 2 look after alot of people fucking out on things which has caused bad trips for smurf. smurfette used to have alot of bad trips, but now she is fine. this is where alot of smurfs anxiety came from when on lsd which is shit cos it's always hanging around there in the corner somewhere waiting 2 come out. swim has found the right music helps alot on lsd, & while listening 2 the right music, what really works for smurf is progressive trance. while listening 2 the music speaking words of positive things to smurfette such as what ever it is that sweys arerlooking 4ward to like goals & events in the future. happy positive stuff. doing this as the song builds to it's peak & then when it has its break you just listen to the break & enjoy it. hopefully this does'nt sound weird. but smurf has used this method. laughing to myself inside quietly thinking 'mind control!' but i promise it worked. she used to always have bad trips now she loves them. it's basically distraction for those that have tendancies to think & look @ things a bit too seriously or go to deep into certain things. knowing swey was only helping sweys girlfriend should b enough reason to give it another try knowing what caused the bad trip but this time prepared & with a plan 4 the trip so both sweys can enjoy the experiences together on the same level in the future.

[moda00]

I think one of the most important things, as far as the aspect of how and whether to trip again, is to give it some time. It is so important to be able to integrate and come to terms with the difficult experience before moving forward. In addition, if one is feeling afraid/ambivalent about tripping again, it is clearly not time. One will know when they are in a good place for further psychedelic explorations, but the priority now should be dealing with the experience one mentions with time and clarity.

I think one significant aspect would be to assess how the dynamic between the two swimmers played into it- which parts of the experience were difficult because of the interaction between the two, and which were more personal to swiy? Of course this is not such a simple question, as there is clearly overlap, but I think that this needs to be addressed. It is one thing to try and integrate a difficult experience one had by themselves, but when another person was involved, this needs to be addressed too. It might also help to discuss the experience between the two of swiyou, as far as being open about what swiyou each experienced and how swiyour emotions and reactions were intertwined- and how this could be redirected in a more positive way.

I think it also makes sense, when swiyou is ready to start thinking about his next trip, to plan for it- while the most important thing is just looking forward to it and having a positive attitude, set and setting, and while planning shouldn't be overdone, I do think in this case it could be helpful to decide how swiy wants to approach this. One option could be to try a different substance, a different setting, and/or different group, etc., rather than dive right into the same situation that provoked such a difficult experience before, that is, if one feels it could be anxiety provoking. Another option is to set up some guidelines for expectations and such between the two of swiyou, such as perhaps tripping together but also allowing one another some space to explore their own trip, so there isn't as much pressure to be together the whole time and have such strong influence on each other.

I think one of the most helpful things for me is journaling. It can really help one to process things, and also empowers you (and takes away some of the looming sense of power held over you by the bad experience) simply by getting those thoughts out on paper and acknowledging them. I know the memories of a difficult trip can seem to be huge and scary and overwhelming, but by acknowledging them and working through them, it becomes more manageable. Once swiy can write or talk freely about the experience, and take it as a learning experience, I think he will be able to see it for a difficult but not overwhelmingly negative part of his life experience, and feel ready to move forward. Also, while talking with one's significant other about the experience seems to be an important step, I also think it is extremely important with any difficult psychedelic experience to address the parts that are very deeply personal, and journaling can be a way to do this.

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[Panthers007]

I'll play echo: Give it time. There can be no magic antidote to seeing clearly. Whether a psychedelic is involved or not. This happens to people under fully natural conditions, too.

Just give the mind time to sort and file things in their (for the person) proper order. Time.