Effects - Deer's Tongue as a stimulant?

[Milk man]

Swim was reading a topic about dreaming here and came across a post that stated:

Deer's Tongue (Liatris Odoratissima)
Also known as American Wild Vanilla
Found Wild United States
Appearance A strong growing climbing plant with obovate-lanceolate leaves. The leaves are used.
Theraputic, or culinary use A powerful stimulant, highly regarded by the North American Indians as an aphrodisiac, and said to induce erotic dreams. Also a most effective diuretic.

Does any swiy have any experience with this? Is it a powerful stimulant?

Does anyone know the active ingredient in this plant? Could it be bought dry or does it need to be fresh.

[Lobsang]

Originally Posted by Milk man

Swim was reading a topic about dreaming here and came across a post that stated:

Does any swiy have any experience with this? Is it a powerful stimulant?

Does anyone know the active ingredient in this plant? Could it be bought dry or does it need to be fresh.

Coumarin is what it is known best for. But I really would not know what causes stimulation or dreams. And sure you can get it dry. And sure it is probably active in the dry form.

[Panthers007]

Coumarin is added to tobacco, among many other chemicals, by major cigarette companies. It has been linked to causing nicotine to be harder-hitting, thereby making the cigarettes more addictive. And the withdrawl from cigarettes more intense and emotionally de-stabilizing. There are some reports linking this with higher incidences of cancer. The tobacco companies have done their best to silence the research into this.

Last analysis: If you smoke, watch out with this plant.

[Potter]

Coumarin is also a powerful blood thinner and actually used as a rat poison, large enough dose blows out the clotting mechanism and the merest scratch results in bleeding to death. It is the sweet cut grass smell of Sweet Grass, Woodruff, and also shows up in Tonka Bean. The levels in the beans are why they are banned by the FDA as a food additive. I'm not sure about stimulating effects. Just to let you know.

p.s. sweet grass makes a wonderful smoking admixture, nobody can't imagine one could smoke enough to be at risk for a bloody death.