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Old 09-07-2008, 07:40
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Advice for Cold turkey

Swim has been snorting Oxycodone 30 mgs pretty much everyday for the last 18 months. Swim has recently been snorting anywhere from 120mg-210mg a day. Usually 180mg.
Swims plan for quitting cold turkey are as follows and was wondering if anyone has any advice.
Snort 30 mg thursday morning to hold off withdrawls while at work on thursday. Then swim doesnt plan on using after that. Will get hands on a bunch of xanex to try and sleep all weekend. Swim will also get a bunch of weed to help with keeping his mind off the way he will be feeling. On top of the xanex and weed swim will take plenty of immodium and try his hardest to keep hydrated by drininking water and gatorade.
Any advice for swim will be greatly appreciated. Especially some advice if theres anything he can take to be able to feel somewhat normal at work on Monday morning.
Swim will try to post his experiences through the weekend
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:04
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

Have you thought of tapering so the withdrawals will not be so bad?
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:52
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

Would swiy have any advice on a good taper method for swim. Swim would prefet to be off the oxycodone sooner than later.
Swim previously tried to taper off the oxy 30s but did not have the will power and snorted all of them in 2 days.
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

i detoxed from a 15 percocet a day habit with benzo's and i got hooked on the benzo

opiate detox is a piece of cake compared to benzo withdrawals. no joke. xanax withdrawal is hell on earth.
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

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i detoxed from a 15 percocet a day habit with benzo's and i got hooked on the benzo

opiate detox is a piece of cake compared to benzo withdrawals. no joke. xanax withdrawal is hell on earth.

Very true only SWIM did it the other way around, got hooked to roxies while getting off Benzo, they liked to combine the two although it was very apparent Oxy became his drug of choice. But he has been clean for two weeks now.

As for SWIM's personal suggestions, HOT SHOWERS (SWIM's Apt's has a hot tub, THANK GOD!), eat and drink lots of water (SWIM knows you have the runs and there is not much you can do about it) to push the Opiates out of system as fast as possible. Take a few Benzo's if you can here and there to help sleep (see quoted warning above though) weed may also do this. Other than that just stay away from anyone who uses (SWIM lost his cell phone the same day he quit, ironically, in retrospect it probably kept him from scoring more when the cravings got bad, cause who really remembers a number these days)

SWIM's question is what can he do for his joints. They are constantly popping and he never used to pop like this before. SWIM means it is not really painful but rather just a pain in the ass. anyone know what he can do for his popping joints???
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Old 14-07-2008, 06:33
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

Thanks to swiy's. Swim is going to be very serious in this taper and really stop his oxy addiction. Thank you for all the help. Swim will begin this taper tomorrow and will keep swiys updated and ask if he has any questions if needed
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

With any withdrawl it varies with the person some tolerate this uncomfirtable feelings better. If swim was swiy then swim would start the first 3 or 4 days tapering off the oxy's and that way come Monday swiy shouldn't be too bad. As far as sleeping then just try and save the oxy's for the night whilst tapering down as swim is ok with the withdrawl during the day but it's at night and not sleeping that beats swim down. Swiy should try and either avoid using the xanex or use as few as possible as swiy doesn't want to swap one addiction for another. The weed may help relax swiy when going to sleep at night. Swim also found a hot as swiy can stand it shower relieves the aches and pains for an hour or so.
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

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With any withdrawl it varies with the person some tolerate this uncomfirtable feelings better. If swim was swiy then swim would start the first 3 or 4 days tapering off the oxy's and that way come Monday swiy shouldn't be too bad. As far as sleeping then just try and save the oxy's for the night whilst tapering down as swim is ok with the withdrawl during the day but it's at night and not sleeping that beats swim down. Swiy should try and either avoid using the xanex or use as few as possible as swiy doesn't want to swap one addiction for another. The weed may help relax swiy when going to sleep at night. Swim also found a hot as swiy can stand it shower relieves the aches and pains for an hour or so.
well said. although only temporary, the hot showers do wonders.

Tapering is the best way to do it SWIM thinks. Sounds like you have a good amount in you system so cold turkey wouldn't be the safest/smartest thing to try. Xanax as well, only temporary relief but it definatly helps. SWIyou should check the opiate addiction threads out, some pretty good remedies there.

SWIM finds it works well that once he is past the part of tapering and still feels BLA he snorts a tiiiiny spec of oxycodone.
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

I find that going cold turkey is possible but i wouldnt recomend it,tapering down is recomended.Also i found that taking multiple showers is a good way to feel good,in jail the shower is the only thing that brings any relief (just don't drop the soap)
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

Swim also got hooked on benzo usinng them to taper off methadone.. Methadone was fun compared to benzo withdrawl
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

The main thing some one needs to come off of pretty much any drug is determination (and a taper for certain things like benzo's where cold turkey can be dangerous), 100% i am going to do it if i die determination (not literal death ). Frankly anyone can detox off opiates, it's unpleasant as hell at the time and the cure is so easy and tempting. The real test comes after the detox with staying clean and drug free, this is where the majority of people fail.

I know i don't have 100% determination to become drug free, i just don't think i could do it just now. I think people know in them self if they can do it but i also know it can be easy for people to lie to themselves as well as others like family, in fact i think the pressure of family or good friends can be enough to make you lie to yourself, so people have to be aware of that.

Anyway, i agree with tapering but of course this requires a larger than usual supply that can cause more problems than solve. The risk for me at least would be taking some benzo's and then deciding to put it off for a day and go on a bit of a bender. I don't know if that's something that could happen or not, but if it is maybe getting someone sympathetic to the cause to help wouldn't be a bad idea.
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

hot sun, hot showers, multi vitamins, vitamin b complex, tyrosene, clonodine (most say a better idea then xanax) and exercise (once you are able to, obviously. this will probably not be very possible the first few days). exercise keeps your mind in the right place. a beautiful natural high.
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

I have done an outpatient lofexidine detox which is very similar to clonodine and i have to say that lofexidine detox was very unpleasant and i wouldn't do it again unless it came with a LOT of diazepam or something similar. The other thing is i don't think it is a good idea to take clonodine without medical supervision, the drug is originally used to treat high blood pressure. When i was taking lofexidine as an outpatient i had my blood pressure monitored and taken every day and i imagine the same would go for clonodine.
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Re: Advice for Cold turkey

Swim realized he needs to stop now and does not have the mental toughness to taper off. He has gotten a script to suboxone and is going to start it tonight once withdrawls start up. He plans on using the suboxone mainly for a detox and doesnt want to go on it long term. The real test will be to see how swim responds to being off the oxy completely and if he can stay clean in the longrun. He plans on taking melontonin for sleep or even trying to get some type of sleeping aid from the doctor such as ambiem.
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