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Old 08-07-2008, 07:13
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Can anything worthwile be done?

Heres the deal... SWIM has 15 mg SR from Mallinckrodt Pharm. These babies gell when broke and mixed with water so shooting and plugging is out of the question. SWIM wouldn't shoot anyway if it was possible, the bioavailability is conflicting in this forum from oral to snorting, at one place oral is said to have a higher bioavailability (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22807) and at another snorting is said to be higher(http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12351). Either way, if SWIM removes the outer coating swim believes they are still SR because a wax coating throughout, is this truely the case or if the initial coating is removed is it no longer SR. What is the best way to get the most out of them? Simply crush it up and eat it? Swim should also mention the Swim has a tolerance, to put it in perspective, 6-8 mg of hydromorphone do Swim good.
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Old 09-07-2008, 03:09
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Re: Can anything worthwile be done?

SWIM doesn't think that plugging is out of the question. Wouldn't the "gel" still be absorbed rectally?
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Re: Can anything worthwile be done?

I'm not too sure if the gelling affect renders it useless, as part of the pills "anti-abuse" or "deterent" mechanism. I have researched other parts of the web and can find similar posts but none specific to the time release gelling.
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Re: Can anything worthwile be done?

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I'm not too sure if the gelling affect renders it useless, as part of the pills "anti-abuse" or "deterent" mechanism. I have researched other parts of the web and can find similar posts but none specific to the time release gelling.
SWIM knows that the ONLY way to take it is to swallow, crushing has little to no noticable effect on the wax time realease cause once it hits the stomach it turns into the gel which is only slowly absorbed by the body. Gov is trying to make most OC like this now but is having a hard time getting the Dr.'s support but the day is coming when OC's will be very hard to get. They are cracking down bigtime.
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Re: Can anything worthwile be done?

Its probably horrible for the lungs to smoke that gel, but swim would bet they are still smokeable. No matter how "bigtime" the government cracks down, swim is sure that users will still find ways around their mechanisms. There's probably a simple A/B or solvent technique that would work for purifying it as well, but swim could only guess as to what this would be.
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