Effects - 1 cc liquid morphine questions

[dodi]

SWIM said to ask what how many times he can feel the effects from 1 cc of medically sealed and packaged liquid morphine ?

How do you make the best of it if you don't want to inject ? Can swim drop it on his skin? Put it in his drink?

[Ontherooftops]

Well, "how many times he can feel the effects" is impossible to ascertain without a mg amount. Swim's guess would be, if this is an ampoule, meaning a small vial which one punctures with a hypodermic needle, it would be one dose IV. He doesn't think that they make multi-dose ampoules, but they MAY make ampoules for the opiod tolerant.

Swim's guess is that this is an ampoule and would probably contain 5-10mg morphine for IV. Swim could just drink this, and probably feel a mild something. Swim could also stick a straw into the liquid and snuff that up his sniffer, which will work much better, but won't be that pleasant. He could also evaporate the solution and sniff the resulting powder.

The most bang for his buck would be to squirt it up his bum.

He shouldn't do anything with it though untill he finds out the dosage it contains.

[sl1p609]

swim just did 45mgs of rectal probably 5mgs of mscontin with a technique of cwe and then using a wheel filter. question is can skin popping do any good ?

[Solinari]

As Ontherooftops mentioned, it is impossible to give an answer without the concentration of the preparation. The concentration is usually given in mg's per ml, so it should look something like 10mg/ml or whatever the number is. It would be dangerous to assume the concentration especially when injection is the method of administration.

As for skin popping, it definitely is not a good way to administer anything other than a sterile made for injection preparation. Subcutaneous injection (skin popping) should only really be done with a drug that is meant for it. As with intramuscular, subcutaneous injection can run a much greater risk of infection than intravenous injection.

I have seen pictures on Google Image Search (search "heroin", 4th in from the left) and it is really really nasty. That guy is probably dead by now, but at the time he really need serious medical attention, i just hope whoever took the photo got him that help. I can't say if that was due to skin popping, but from what i have heard, it sure looks like it.

[dodi]

they are 25 mg of morphine vials if that helps.

[Solinari]

Is this liquid morphine an oral preparation or is it meant for injection? I doubt it would be absorbed well if dropped on the skin and drinking it will have low bioavailability but if that's what it is meant for then it can be put in a drink.

A lot of it will depend on the tolerance to opiates such as morphine, if there is little or no tolerance or previous use of opiates then a low dose must be used first, as they say, you can always add but never subtract. To be honest i can't say what a good starting dose would be, i really don't know, so for that i advise reading in to it and finding out.

[frankz81]

u can use the whole vial safely even without a tolerance, they dont make vials strong enough to cause an od to non tolerant people, wat my dr told me anyways. for tolerant people they simple just give u more, or in my case give u something stronger like fentanyl.
i used to have 100mg's of pethidine/demerol without any kind of tolerance.. at the time it was the biggest and most intense rush i ever had from anything including h.
i also had been prescribed 50mg tablets of it, and would at times consume up to 3 before i had built up a tolerance.
morphine wise i am allergic i now know, but had been given 60mg's without a problem aside from the allergic reactions,ie no respiratory prob or breathing difficulty.
my gf who had absolutely no tolerance was ok with the morphine,and seeing i had it sitting around and didnt wanna waste it, i gave her 20mgs at a time (for safety)> iv and was perfectly fine. i could probably have given her double that as more often than not she would have another 20mgs within half an hour anyways.
now with a very very low tolerance , swim can have roughly 60mgs of oc via iv without any difficulty, and that roughly equates to 200mgs morphine iv'd or 500mg po , data comes from the average of 2 narcotic dosage converters.
dont know how accurate the charts are, esp seeing every1 is different but oxys are definately stronger than morphine...swim currently on 2 norpan patches, 20mcg/hr so roughly 1mg per day,not much but via the charts is roughly 25mg morphine iv so i probably am a little tolerant...in saying that tho, i can take the patches off for a day or so and not withdrawl at all, dont know if i could say the same about being on 25mg morphine iv a day tho....

[dodi]

Originally Posted by Solinari

Is this liquid morphine an oral preparation or is it meant for injection? I doubt it would be absorbed well if dropped on the skin and drinking it will have low bioavailability but if that's what it is meant for then it can be put in a drink.

A lot of it will depend on the tolerance to opiates such as morphine, if there is little or no tolerance or previous use of opiates then a low dose must be used first, as they say, you can always add but never subtract. To be honest i can't say what a good starting dose would be, i really don't know, so for that i advise reading in to it and finding out.

liquid morphine vials, but no one has even seen in. buddy just informed that they are medically sealed vials are easily accessible to him.


to the comment you can add but not subtract.... but what about neutralize/block and are you sure you can't subtract? By adding another chemical that acts as an inhibitor of somewhat to specific receptors you can block the receptor that is affecting the body because that receptor is being affected by whatever is in the morphine chemical.this affect could do anything. ie- promote something to "subtract" - where just not that far away into science yet though ;-) --- kind of crazy info, sorry it's just i've been taking psychology and chem classes and i've been coming up with crazy ideas where information like this is necessary to know in order to create my super secret drug. it applies to this theory.

but yes, your probably right as of now we don't know how to subtract it. but I think the basis to know how to subtract from drugs entering the body isn't to far away though.

[Solinari]

Yes, yes, you could use an antagonist like naloxone to reverse the effects of another opioid but it isn't going to do you much good if you have already went over, it's only useful in the hands of someone else.

[On The Nod]

bang it in your arm and up your vein for the biggest impact

[jon-q]

Originally Posted by On The Nod

bang it in your arm and up your vein for the biggest impact

Shooting 25mg of morphine into a opiate noob is a great fucking way to get him killed.
And going over and being revived with naloxone ain't much fun trust me!
May swim suggest if swiy does want to iv,he uses maybe 10mg as a starting point,if like he says in first post iv aint an option then the second best route of admin would be rectal same dose..full instructions avail "utse".....Q

[txslammin]

you should only do about 12.5 or half of a vial mixed with about 2 x's as much saline
if it is 25 mg's how much solution,,, ie 25 mg in how many ml of fluid?... let me know and i can tell you how much to how much need to know if you are a man or woman and how much u weigh?

txslammin added 0 Minutes and 43 Seconds later...

i can give you the max dose but you might puke

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you got any left over you can send my way lol,,,, is it 25mg to 1cc or ml of fluid are we talkin a multi dose vial,,, if we are then 1cc is 25mg therefore you only need .5cc to about 3cc of saline in a 5cc syringe,,, i would go ahead and put .5cc and 4cc of saline and shoot it slow to get great effect,,,,, you still might puke,,,, if so try less then more after about an hour.

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if you dont want to vein it the actual best second route would be nasal,,, ie empty a nasal spray ,,, and half and half morph with saline ,,, mix and spray,,,, you cannot control the obsorbtion rate if taken rectally. nasally with a half and half mix you can control dose and amount,,, give it a few mins between squirts to judge effects.

[jstsandy]

I recently had my morphine pump removed (intrathecal pump). To avoid going through withdrawals, the nurse said she left the pump full and gave it to me, said I could inject the morphine to get relief, but I have no idea how much to use? Anyone know?