Combinations - Effects of LSD, Psilocybin and Salvia Combo?

[WrongPlace WrongTime]

What is the interaction between shrooms, Lucy, and Sally? If someone did them in that order, with a few hours in between, could their mind be blown?

Like really, really blown?

Without actually having an aneurysm...

Thanks for the response, happy to be here, hello goodbye...

[Dead Head Altair]

I'm not sure how the effects of LSD and Psilocybin complement each other, although I'd suspect the experience would be akin to taking a large dose of either LSD or mushrooms, since they're both serotonergic drugs.

As for salvia, I think you wouldn't remember the trip, as salvia by itself can often be strong enough to cause amnesia for 5-8 minutes.

[PingoTango]

SWIM think that this would be a bad idea - the effects of Salvia are quite short lasting, but very intense. After smoking Salvia extract, SWIM always likes to relax and mull over his experience with a sober mind, maybe he'll smoke a joint or have a couple of beers, but he certainly wouldn't like to be dumped straight into an acid trip. It would almost certainly lead to a bad experience.

SWIM suggests that SWIY tries to find some DMT instead.

[Euphoric]

Cannot comment or speculate, but will simply advise if this combination is pursued, have a competent sitter on hand!

[Songcycle67]

SWIM:

LSD and Psilocybin are regularly found in combination on "boomers"--LSD soaked mushrooms. Some people call this the perfect trip, with the shrooms boosting your visuals and the LSD working on the intellect/keeping the mind working. Some of the best visuals SWIM has ever had have been with this combination--extremely realistic stuff. He would suggest taking them both at the same time, though, as it's a commonly held belief that the assault on the synapses all at once is what triggers a strong trip. Being stuck in the middle of a mushroom trip and coming up on LSD would be kind of a waste of both in SWIM's opinion.

Most heads agree that they definitely compliment each other very well.

As for the salvia, well, SWIM dunno. I mean, it lasts 15-25 minutes, it's a dissociative, and it depends on how much you like the stuff. It gives SWIM bum trips every time. He hates the terrible body sensations it gives off, but if SWIY likes it I'd say it couldn't hurt as long as you're in a safe enough place to be COMPLETELY out of it for a half an hour or so. If SWIY has had negative experiences with Salvia, I'd say stay away from it. The slightest negative vibes can turn a perfectly wonderful, ecstatic experience (which mushrooms/acid combos normally are) into something dreadful and confusing.

Either way, prepare for lift-off.

[raven3davis]

This combo would definitely be mind blowing. Not in a fun way though.

SWIM would stick to shrooms and lucy. Those together will have any SWIM plenty high. Salvia would just be icing on the cake, when there was already plenty of icing to begin with, if that makes sense. Salvia by itself is pretty mind blowing. Lucy or shrooms by themselves are very mind blowing. Combining all of them would send you to another planet, at least for a few minutes.

Know your limits and be safe. Your head should stay in tact.

[Jatelka]

LSD soaked mushrooms? Now that has more than a whiff of myth about it. Does your marmoset have references to back that up songcycle67?

"Boomer" as far as the flamingo is aware is simply a slang term for magic mushrooms containing psilocybin

[Songcycle67]

No it's definitely true, but I don't have sources. There's not exactly an erowid page for combinations of drugs but I've read about them on other forums and SWIM has experienced them. I know there are several accounts in the literature of people getting sold store-bought mushrooms dipped in LSD to up the prices (XXXX) but I haven't a clue where they are.

"Boomers" gets thrown around a lot, and he's not as familiar with mushrooms, but in SWIM's circle they are pretty much strictly referred to in the context of LSD-laced mushrooms. Specifically dipped cap-first into liquid. It may be a local thing, but SWIM has seen it done several times as it is one of the most popular forms of ingestion in his area. Usually it's done by people who just happen to have both on hand, not dealers. I probably should've clarified that. It's rare to run across them unless one specifically asks for it and knows someone with both on hand.

They are, however, fairly prominent and available pre-dosed (if you actually get what you're told you're getting) at jam band festivals and things of that nature so I don't see how it could be local.

I believe they're called candy-flips too? Something of that nature--one of those weird combo words--mollies, etc. One of SWIM's friends turned him onto them and has always called them "boomers" or "atomic boomers" and he calls the regular psilos "shroomz."

SWIM doesn't think it's something you'd have to worry about coming across unless you wanted to come across it.

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by songcycle67

No it's definitely true, but I don't have sources. There's not exactly an erowid page for combinations of drugs but I've read about them on other forums and SWIM has experienced them. I know there are several accounts in the literature of people getting sold store-bought mushrooms dipped in LSD to up the prices ($XX as opposed to $X) but I haven't a clue where they are.

First of all, there are reports on either here or erowid for nearly every drug and feasible combination of drugs possible, after which looking through I can find no references to 'boomers' being mushrooms laced with LSD.

Several accounts in 'the literature'? how is this not a source? please specify what exactly you mean by 'the literature'. When referring to 'store bought', in which country is LSD legally sold in a store alongside or laced into mushrooms? and if simply referring to store-bought, non-psychoactive mushrooms, then this is not the supposed combination and im not sure I understand the point of the statement.

Also, 68 posts and you still dont know the rules!? Price discussion is NOT ALLOWED.

"Boomers" gets thrown around a lot, and he's not as familiar with mushrooms, but in SWIM's circle they are pretty much strictly referred to in the context of LSD-laced mushrooms. Specifically dipped cap-first into liquid. It may be a local thing, but SWIM has seen it done several times as it is one of the most popular forms of ingestion in his area. Usually it's done by people who just happen to have both on hand, not dealers. I probably should've clarified that. It's rare to run across them unless one specifically asks for it and knows someone with both on hand.

Swim has been eating, growing, and conversing about mushrooms for the better part of the last 7 years, and has never once run into the term 'boomers' in reference to anything other than plain old psilocybin containing mushrooms. He does in fact, hear mushrooms quite frequently called 'boomers', but again, never in reference to such a combination as LSD dipped mushrooms.

Also, dipped cap first into liquid? how amazingly dilute does this liquid have to be to actually dip a cap into it and come out with a reasonable dose? or are you simply implying that 1mg+ is dose on top of the cap?

They are, however, fairly prominent and available pre-dosed (if you actually get what you're told you're getting) at jam band festivals and things of that nature so I don't see how it could be local.

anyone else's friends ever run into these fabled LSD-dipped mushrooms at a music festival? please support this theory if swiy has...

I believe they're called candy-flips too? Something of that nature--one of those weird combo words--mollies, etc.

'Candy flipping' is a term used in reference to the combination of LSD and MDMA (molly).



As for the combination of LSD, mushrooms, and salvia, I think the discussion regarding the half-life of salvinorum is pretty spot-on in the realm of rational concerns regarding this combination. There shouldnt be too much to worry about health-wise, though a sitter should certainly be present. Psychologically however, coming back from a rocket-led sleigh through the salvicosmos smack-dab into the middle of a full blown LSD-Psilocybin experience could be a less than comfortable predicament, especially considering how exhausting, disorienting, unpredictable and often uncomfortable a salvia trip can be.

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Pretty much what I wanted to say, but I don't have enough caffeine on board to articulate yet, LOL

[Panthers007]

Occasionally regular, dried store-bought mushrooms have been dosed with LSD as an attempt to pass them off as actual Magic Mushrooms. This was common in the 1960's and 70's. These fakes were dubbed in the underground press as Pseudopsilocybe Hoffmanii's.

But this was in the day when few people were aware that Psilocybe sp. were common the world over.

[Songcycle67]

SWIM:

The "literature" refers to the thousands of articles compiled during and after psychedelics research was conducted. Sorry about the prices, I thought only specific prices were not to be mentioned, whereas I was just giving an approximation to prove a point, but nevertheless, sorry about that one.


Thanks panthers for the help on store-bought laced shrooms. As for the question about dipping, one normally drops the desired amount of hits onto a tray and then dips the cap into the liquid. These are most specifically referred to as "boomers" in SWIM's area, but that is his subjective experience.

I'm sure there are a few SWIMmers out there who can validate the presence of dosed shrooms at festivals. It's a very popular combination in those circles and I know it has a name similar to candy flipping I just can't think of it. And I truly doubt that such a combination would be listed in anything on Erowid or MAPS in its own right. Although I'd say there are reports available from experiences of the two at once, I doubt they are specifically mentioned by any "common name" by anyone except the (apparently) few who take them.


Anyway, I don't see what all the fuss is about: it's not as if SWIM is suggesting something that doesn't work, or putting forth some ridiculous idea. Are you asking for literature proving that these are called "boomers?"

If so; give SWIM a break, man.

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appreciate your posts in this thread.

[ReAlitY-HoLds-NonE]

SWIM has never encountered LSD dosed mushrooms, but one of his sources who sells only, and every psychadelic (lucky SWIM haha) has often sold him a couple of g's of mushrooms and a few drops were put onto the mushrooms...

Its not all that impressive, although noticable SWIM has the preassumption that LSD feels 'clinical' whereas shrooms feel alot more earthy, with visuals that compliment each of these perceptions. The shrooms visual capacity overwhelms the (..what SWIM considers) "mediocre" visuals on LSD, whereas the speediness of LSD overwhelms the floaty feelings he gets on shrooms. LSD isfar more adrenaline fueled whereas shrooms are dreamy, and when combined its like dreaming about being on a rollercoaster while on the psychadelics themselves (if that at all makes sense?!)...

Combined with salvia though, SWIM wouldnt see that as much diffirent to combining other drugs, he finds drug combo's to not be "mind blowing" as it where, and if one wants to blo their mind they should just take higher doses!

[Ontherooftops]

Swim has a friend who for a time was in love with a psychedelic explosion. Not the normal "trip" that most users seek, but a complete loss of ego etc. From time to time he intentionally takes this combo, usually eating LSD and then eating the mushrooms the following day after not sleeping, where in swim's experience the LSD "invades" the newly introduced psychedelic.

One night this friend ate 4 doses of very potent LSD from midnight to 8am, swim thinks they were spread out but this friend doesn't remember this day very well, and swim was dopily asleep. Around 10am the next day this friend ate more than an 8th of cubes.

Swim remembers well the look on his face. He made involuntary, animalistic noises, and appeared as if the G forces of the psychedelic rocketship he was on were actually having a physical effect on his being.

A little later, once he had the physical capability to lift a pipe, he smoked DMT. Swim has no choice but to admire his reckless abandonment of reality, and frankly doesn't have any desire to understand the realms swim is sure he visited.