Experiences - The new "Silver" LSD

[Ontherooftops]

In the pacific northwest area there is a type of LSD which is somewhat legendary. Supposedly the formula is that of the "one family", which as far as swim understands is a commune, which is a modern day descendant of the merry pranksters, residing somewhere in eastern oregon.

Any lab rat or rabbit that is administered this LSD is impressed to say the least, many run off to find more but attain the average streed cid and are greatly dissapointed.

Swim's rat doesn't much like LSD as his first experience was an accidental dose of over a mg, which was rather traumatic. However, his rat has been looking at the silver tabs for some time, and eventually broke down and took approximately 40mcg of this substance. The effects took unusually long to set in, around 2h, but once they did it was like no other LSD he has taken. Beautiful visual distortion, but without the metallic/chemical physical sensation he expects from lasada. Normally LSD keeps the rat away from his food bowl, but he was not at all averse to eating whatever he felt like.

The rat had previously been administered gabapentin, clonazepam, and kava kava, which certainly had an effect on his experience, but this was around 8h before, and he is fairly sure that much of the effect he felt was indeed from the LSD.

Other animals report similar effects from this LSD, that it has all the nice parts but is devoid of all the unpleasant and strange ones, such as the mental distortion, time distortion, etc. Many are so drawn by the intense sensation of enlightenment brought on by the silver lasada that they find it imperative that they seem more drawn to it than average cid.

The effects were very strong for such a low mic. According to other rats 85mcg is a full experience, compared to the 200mcg that seems average around here.

Could this perhaps be some analogue of LSD-25? Hoffman perportedly synthesized a number analogues in his time at sandoz. Perhaps ALD-52, which according to what swim has read is dealt at times as LSD? Really there's no way to know and it doesn't matter much, swim certainly wanted to make a report on his rats and whats a rapidly spreading trend for psychedelic users in the pacific northwest.

[Alfa]

Sorry, but this is too hyped to be much other than bullshit. LSD is often what one expects it to be. Suggestion does a lot. Hyped up stories are just that: suggestion.

Adding gabapentin, clonazepam, and kava kava to the mix surely has a major effect on the experience.

No matter what dealers may say: according to analysis, blotter rarely contains more than 100 mcg LSD. The average is ~75 mcg LSD.

One thing to consider is purity. Some LSD may be less pure than other LSD.

[Ontherooftops]

Ha, don't have apologize for it. It was good for the rat no matter what it was.

If it was just a blank tab the rat would be perfectly satisfied.

It likely is LSD, swim only wondered if it could be something else, due to its greater potential to form a habit that swim has noticed in his rats, and their dissapointment with other sources afterward. Its definately the only time swim has thought "this rat wants to do that again" as opposed to "never again in this lifetime".

Frankly, swim thinks his experience was more pleasant for his rat than his more recent ones because he only took half a tab, he just doesn't need to trip that hard. This was likely his first time with clean LSD, as he actually has a trustworthy source, one who is friends with the chemist.

Interesting fact about mcg doses. Thanks for the reply.

[Songcycle67]

SWIM:

The average street hit is around 75-100mcg, I would say, yeah. Even less probably in most street vials due to dillution. But if you have a good source there's plenty of blotter, liquid, and crystal floating around that's in any dose range imaginable--why these turn up in analysis so rarely is truly strange. SWIM can usually get several different grades and dosage levels from his connections, but most of his peeps have spent their lives following jam bands and making connections with people all over the place. SWIM thinks the key to finding good stuff is dealing with people who are really only interested in psychedelics--buying from one's friend or local pot dealer who happened to stumble onto some plain white blotter through a friend of a friend's friend is not the way to go.

I'd say there are probably plenty of SWIMmers on this forum who can get pretty much what they want when they want it.



As to the original question: SWIM says "silver" acid could just be a description of quality: often "silver" is a term used to describe acid that is of around 85% purity--it is not exclusively tabbed in silver and SWIM has personally never heard of or seen acid tabbed in different colors to indicate purity. Since purity is debatable when it comes to the effects of LSD, these terms could just be thrown around to indicate higher dose.

You say that your rat broke off approximately 40mcg--how did he do that? 40 mcg is certainly not a dose that would be visible unless you knew how much was on the whole tab. As ALFA said, most dealers have no idea how much is in each tab so they bullshit. SWIM has never heard of anyone tripping hard on 40 mcg of ALD, LSD, or any other LSD analogues/research chems, but purists insist that the purer the product the lower the dose required and the cleaner/more euphoric the trip.

Sounds like SWIY just got some really potent or really pure LSD-25. There's so much speculation about purity and dose regarding this question, it'll never get a solid answer. Lots of people get hung up on wanting to know how much they have and how pure it is, but if your rat is worried about it being another chemical then chances are he's fine. If it was a small tab, not overly bitter, and it illicited a psychedelic experience like LSD then I'd say that it was the real deal.

Edit: Ah, if your rat got it from someone who knows the chemist then I'd say he knew the correct dose. In SWIM's experience he has tried a number of different grades and doses through closely connected sources and he thinks that purity effects duration of trip, clarity of visuals/buzz, and potency--although perhaps only very slightly after you approach a certain level. He'd still contend that 40 mcg of even the purest would only give a strong body buzz. The lowest measured dose that produced full blown psychedelia at 97-99% purity was 80mcg as opposed to the usual 120-150.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

This "Silver"hype is out of control!Swim is actually hearing about it in his part of the world.Swim suspects that it is just that...hype.

[radiometer]

As soon as people start talking about 'silver', 'fluff', or how many micrograms are on their blotters, my brain immediately shuts down.

[N0ly]

The extended come up, light body load, ability to eat, lack of mental and time distortion, plus the overwhelming enlightened "cosmic" feeling leads swim to believe that this was a DOx chemical probably DOC which is quite enjoyable and actually preferable to LSD for some people.

[Songcycle67]

Most people report heavy, "dirty" bodyloads from DOx from what I've read about it/SWIM has experienced. According to him really good/strong LSD usually takes 1 1/2-2 hours to really zang you because you feel so confused during the come-up. Also DOx visuals are ultra-weak compared to LSD and he said his rat's visuals were remarkable.

Still a possibility.

Also isn't DOB the only DOx that fits on blotter? I know DOM doesn't.

[N0ly]

The dosage of DOC is pretty close to that of DOB for the common to strong range. And from swims personal experience with it it has very light body load and some pretty good visuals (the universe splitting in two and raw colour pouring out kinda stuff.) The enlightened oneness cosmic feeling is outstanding and feels very natural, like its always been there. Really easy to hold on to for months after a good dose.

[radiometer]

Is this turning into an "analyze what chemical I took over the internet" thread?


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