Confirmed been visited from another plane

[sylenth]

hi all, this is my first post that i would love to share with like minded people. smurf and smurfs partner are truly what seems to feel like destined soulmates & 'blessed'. as much as it seems to be a fantasy dream or myth... saying this from the same experiences they've shared. swims see themselves as one with each other and with our universe 'god'.

the smurfs have had the same dreams on numerous occasions where smurfs wake up & both start talking about their dreams, and smurfette will be telling about the dream then smurf interrupts smurfette and finishes the story cos smurf had the same dream. lately smurfs have'nt had it for quite some months, possibly over a year ago.

the most amazing experience was one night whilst sleeping after a 3 day binge on alot of mdma's... smurfs were sleeping and all of a sudden both found themselves awake on their knees in the middle of the bed, with their hands up sort of head height facing each other. there was this ball of light energy the size of a soccer ball! it was not too bright but beautiful. it was light white & green in colour it appeared like transparent energies. smurfs both were kinda in a half daze, trance come astral travel kinda state and just sort of realised what happened and went back into a deep sleep. smurfs later awoke again it could of been 1 hour or 1 minute smurfs dont know. but smurfs woke up together again following this energy again but this time finding them selves awake by the wall where the pillows were behind them. smurfs then again went into the heavy sleep state.

the only thing close to seeing that kinda of energy was always the commonly known colourful fractals. was this a guardian angel? god? all smurfs can say is smurfs feel very special.

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other events since that on a heavier binge of crystal meth mostly, coke, xtc, lsd and alcohol over four days. smurfs had a similar experience but smurfette was more fortunate to remember more consciously smurfettes out of body experience. smurfs were really nicely on another level of consciousness seeing alot of fractals & bright ora's. when smurf realised smurf was not getting through 2 smurfette, smurf was concerned cos smurfette was not understanding & smurf was trying 2 comfort smurfette with something smurfette was not understanding. when eventually smurfette came back & realised smurfette was astral travelling & in a obe state. smurfette came right and was fully aware of what happened.

smurfette described seeing presences through some sort of high window above what appeared to be some kind of a wall. the energies were also a green and white coloured visuals. the experience done so much for smurfette that she did'nt even want more mind altering substances for the rest of the weekend. smurf clicked & then realised that smurf too had seen this & it was just before or after that smurfs felt these presences of other beings. good presences though, comforting there was at least 5 or so from what it felt like...

a few months later partying in swims house just the three of the smurfs the third been smurfs best friend. smurfs were in the house and felt this presence all of a sudden that they were not alone. like there was a few people in the huge room... are these past relatives of smurfs? guardian angels?

to add to this, smurf has twice now had these psychic feelings which smurf believes is becos smurfs are ''tapped in'' from all the drugs. with the smurfs staying in south africa there is alot of crime.

so anyways one night by their friends place a good distance from home. smurfs were all on xtc, smurf was feeling uncomfartable & could'nt understand the feeling of irritable rushy feeling & it just got worse... smurf then said swim had enough and wanted to go home. smurfs left & when smurfs arrived at their house they discovered they were broken in to & the criminals were still in the house but had fortunatly fled.

other occassions been the same uncomfortable feeling very shortly followed by bad news. this confirms smurfs are not mad... it's not always completely acurate though, smurfs find themselves getting a little too excited with this power and mostly find things and people are too predictable... smurfs do not fear death, smurfs look forward to eternal hapiness as one in the universe. but for now while smurfs are here on earth in their meat suits being 'tapped in' helps light up the path. sorry about the long topics but all seem linked would love 2 hear comments & feed back. home is in your head.

sylenth added 824 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

ok smurf knows this is abit soon for a reply... but smurf thinks swim has figured out why smurf and smurfette have had these visitations. which is why smurf has been warning swimmers about dark shadows etc... smurf does not recommend for any one to try the following please.

smurf was always curious of the ouija board. smurf always heard stories of the board & thought it wasn't real cos no one ever wanted to show smurf how it works. so 'coincidentally' smurfettes cousin knew the workings of it & had played with it for many years with his mother so smurfs felt safe to try it with him. smurfs tried it whilst on lsd & it did'nt work... much later when the lsd wore off it worked, besides for disturbing things been said from it... smurfs cat went crazy & had to be given away from seeing things. there was also an uncomfortable presence left after playing it. smurf never played it again becos it was in smurfs minds very real & not to be messed with.

smurf believes that becos it was'nt played more than once risking inviting more bad energies. playing just that once smurfs believes a gateway was opened! which is why smurf believes smurf has had contact with the another plane 'the other side' perhaps? fortunatley light energies of perhaps past relatives, perhaps this is how one is supposed to communicate with past relatives. not by playing the board constantly unknowingly, but just opening the gate. smurf still regrets doing it till this day though. pls let smurf know what you think.

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	Thanks for sharing
	Interesting story.

[lostmente]

ooo plain existence. What ever happened to the generation of plains...fostering our aptitude at being selective of elements in ones persona...its a convenient strategy of this psyche dynamic is the interchangable nature of roles in ones life. One can often lock structure away in an inert enviroment...the useful part of that space is an inner product. Troubling can arise when you start to lay these spaces in too close a vicinity and the vibrations they can pronounce are a tad too similar..thus excitation of this region of space which you previously considered to be locked away until you saw fit starts to action without your perception. Action in such a small space could be akin to development of perception...inconviently flawed if u take this space to be relative to our space.

[radiometer]

ouija board demons

[lostmente]

God and The Devil

why not, Not The God and Devil

[purplehaze]

Sounds to phaze like swiy needs to lay off from the psycoactives for a little while. Lobsang might have some info he can give you as he experienced a similiar astral travelling, and his was caused from being given DXM by mistake and taking it way to frequently causing him to come out of mind, but phaze will not tell you any more, it would be best for lobsang to tell you about his story himself.

Phaze recommends doing other activities instead of getting high for a while, try to regroup and get your chi back if ya know what he means. Maybe there is more to it.. who knows.

Most ouiji boards phaze has seen have been made by milton bradley the same company who makes monoply and other games, he has never believed to much into them thou.

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This is a very smart thing to tell them

[Lobsang]

Sounds to phaze like swiy needs to lay off from the psycoactives for a little while. Lobsang might have some info he can give you as he experienced a similiar astral travelling, and his was caused from being given DXM by mistake and taking it way to frequently causing him to come out of mind, but phaze will not tell you any more, it would be best for lobsang to tell you about his story himself.

Well yes I think that SWIM needs a long rest from all drugs to properly evaluate what has happened. Sometimes a lot of drugs can cause changes in thinking and these changes last for even a while after we stop taking the substances. Then with a long long break we can accurately assess what was truth and what was delusion. In the dream I had about taking the DXM I now know what was delusion and what was possibly valid insight. But one really has to stop and rest for a long time to get a proper perspective. Even if one is totally convinced that what they believe now is tru. And with long term use delusion can persist for a while after stopping the psychedelics and other drugs. SWIM can read my story here.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56304

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Good advice.

[sylenth]

thanx for the response & sharing guys. smurf has layed off the amount of substances that used to be consumed for a few years since this experience. smurf can see & understand why one tries to explain the events from the types & quantities of drugs taken.

smurf has had too many experiences with friends having various trips seeing things good & very bad like lobsangs dream, some crazy things lasting for weeks! lost a good friend till this day he thinks smurf was involved in some conspiracy against him. smurf has seen smurfs brother in law go through the same events as lobsangs dream. all triggered from just one line of coke... he too was classed as schizophrenic then bipolar. still to this day 7 yrs later he is a different person. smurf & smurfette watched him lose all his friends, job, car etc... & worst is smurf n smurfette gave him the line of coke. but they know it had to happen & was it was his choice...

it's been over a year ago since this experience with the smurfs. the only thing that smurf can't make smurf believe it was the drugs only causing the phenomena the time smurf n smurfette woke up, was that it was'nt only smurf seeing this energy ball? it was smurf & smurfette.

as for the ouija board... like smurf said smurf also did'nt believe in it. the time it was 'played' it was a home made one. there again one of the reasons smurf knows it's very real is smurfs cat, 'a real cat.' going crazy, seeing things & hiding in corners. no offence intended for anyone giving their comments on the ouija board. but unless sweys have ever tried it rather don't give a funny comment based on perception. if u big on facts & don't really believe in it then smurf is gonna stop saying don't try it.

thanx 4 the insights, as always smurf is in the middle with the unanswered & the unexplained if it was the mind altering drugs or some thing else. reason smurf called the thread 'confirmed' been visited from another plain is cos smurfette was woken in the middle of the night with smurf seeing what they did. that's the confirmation. pls feel free to give more feed back.

[sylenth]

so smurf has had a long rest besides for a little lsd here & there & opening of the third eye & the best smurf can make of it is that the smurfs were astral travelling together & perhaps the entity in the room was some sort of spirit guide or relative or who knows. the fact that the smurfs woke up together on their knees is weird though, one is'nt supposed to move whilst astral travelling. perhaps from altered states of consciouness & the drugs the bodies started moving until they woke up? cool experience though.

[drug-bot]

Originally Posted by sylenth

other events since that on a heavier binge of crystal meth mostly, coke, xtc, lsd and alcohol over 4 days..

swim doesnt wish to rain on your parade so he'll keep this relativly short, binges on most of the substances you've listed can result in breif psycosis( meth and xtc both can result in amphetamine psycosis, coke can result in psycosis refered to as 'coke bugs'), heavy and binge type use of lsd can cause delusions, alcohol has so many nasty side effects that swim wouldnt be surprised if a brief toxix psycosis could result from a particulary heavy binge.

swim will relate an event that happened to him that in retrospect was a psycotic episode resulting from the heavy abuse of dxm, but at the time seemed sooooo real. this is going to sound very confusing and lacking sense but this is the truth-
swim was about 19 at the time and for about a 2 week period was using 3rd plateau doses of dxm daily in combination with inadequate sleep and nutrition. swim realized that he knew he was a reincarnate of a dead drug user (in fact countless dead drug users throughout history) and this was the reason he used drugs. he knew that he and all his past incarnations where doomed to repeat for eternity a never changing play in which he used drugs became aware of his immortality, died, and was reborn to start the thing over again. he would wander the streets aimlessly experiencing revalation after revalation, certain meaningless things would happen that convinced him his deluion was right. during his drugged out walks he'd wander to neighborhoods hes never been before but had a feeling like he was experiencing deja-vu and this would convince him one of his past incarnations had been there. he was out of his fucking mind for a good 3 days before eventually just passing out from exaushtion and realized how deranged his thing had become. hes happy as hell he returned to normal without any long lasting psycological issues.


becareful and take care of your self, a mind is a terrible thing to waste

[sylenth]

thanx bud. since smurf has read up on peoples experiences & educating himself on the possibilities from those days of the heavy mixed binges. as much as it would be cool knowing there was a possibility it was another plain or something, one cant say for sure. even if one does or does'nt believe in those kind of things. that's the fun in taking mind/reality altering drugs. lol. when it becomes too difficult to make out what is real or not for dreamy kind of periods like lobsang & smurfs bro in law, that becomes a problem.

just reporting the recent events whilst been clean & healthy & astral travelling... these feel pretty real, but hey smurf could just have after psychosis, permanent brain damage or something. oh well, something to share & is fun no matter what it is. some understand some dont, some think they do & some dont some love the illusion who knows. most people think smurf is crazy at least smurf has a smurfette that shares the same experiences. it's cosy in this bubble.

sweys world sounded pretty interesting whilst on this adventure... thanx 4 sharing.

[insomnizombie]

can i ask you sylenth who's innocent mind you are protecting?

insomnizombie added 3 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

and if you can help me find my cosy bubble

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by sylenth

...just reporting the recent events whilst been clean & healthy & astral travelling... these feel pretty real, but hey smurf could just have after psychosis, permanent brain damage or something. oh well, something to share & is fun no matter what it is. some understand some dont, some think they do & some dont some love the illusion who knows. most people think smurf is crazy at least smurf has a smurfette that shares the same experiences. it's cosy in this bubble.

sweys world sounded pretty interesting whilst on this adventure... thanx 4 sharing.

The smurfs experiences sound interesting to me.

Don't dismiss anything as "just psychosis'.'' IMHO the experiences are subjectively real and of value but need to kept in perspective, but the smurfs know that.

The Guardian Angel is a metaphor for the the True Self, according to some writers on the Western mystical traditions....

[insomnizombie]

cause i can't find it anywhere

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by enquirewithin

The smurfs experiences sound interesting to me.

Don't dismiss anything as "just psychosis'.'' IMHO the experiences are subjectively real and of value but need to kept in perspective, but the smurfs know that.

The Guardian Angel is a metaphor for the the True Self, according to some writers on the Western mystical traditions....

it's now twice i am hearing about this true self. first in the weirdest dreams thread & now here, funny how consciousness evolves & sparks new insight around the forum... it is definetly starting to seem prosperous for a better understanding now from learning more about higher & lower levels of one self, if you have any reconmendations or links regarding more info in to this pls post.

sylenth added 6 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by insomnizombie

can i ask you sylenth who's innocent mind you are protecting?

insomnizombie added 3 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

and if you can help me find my cosy bubble

oh, my signature. a little bit of humour with a twist... the minds being protected is just me saying that peoples tolerance to things is different from one to the next & certain info smurf has provided regarding amounts of levels from substances & other things through my posts have being corrected to keep the quality to a maximum on the forum so other members can be safe with their endeavours. the moderators are watching all our posts so quality is important.

as for 'my bubble' that's my beliefs that i have built up over many years, so your bubble will be what you make of it. do'nt let some one burst your bubble, but also do'nt be ignorant. time reveals all...

[enquirewithin]

There were a lot of occult ceremonies concerning invoking the Holy Guardian Angel.
Invoking the vision of the Holy Guardian Angel was part of the rituals of the Golden Dawn.

These also involved invoking demons and banishing them. "Occult" rituals can be seen as meta-programming, or ways of changing consciousness. Demons can be seen as the darker parts of the mind, the subconscious. The Guardian Angel is the truest or most "divine" self.