was wondering if extracting the LSA
from morning glory
with isopropyl alcohol
99.9% without doing any rinsing with naphta etc first would be fine?
SWIM read about the cold water extractions but he feels the alcohol would get more of the LSA out. But what about the nasties that are cleansed with naphta in other extraction methods - are they soluble in alcohol?
SWIM read many times that the "good stuff" is soluble in alcohol and the "bad stuff" in naphta, so he was wondering if skipping the whole naphta step would be fair enough?
He has done morning glory many times before and got a nice vendor that supplies him with good seeds that are untreated and he has always had great effects from these seeds in the past, but at those times he just chewed up the seeds and swallowed them down - up to 1000+ seeds at most, maybe around 1300, which made him trip for 2 days in a row with heavy hallucinations and amazing adventures.
Its just a bit much to chew down so many seeds so he was thinking about trying an extraction this time, also he thinks that the reason he tripped for 2 days was because all those seeds take some time to be absorbed in the belly so he is also supposing that an extraction would make him trip for lesser time, 2 days is a bit long =)
In general SWIM do not have a problem with nausea and the other side effects
many people report from morning glory, and he usually take them on an empty stomach.
Anyway, if SWIM crushes up his morning glory seeds and let them soak in a isopropyl alcohol solution for a day or two before filtering several times and evaporating, shouldn't that work pretty fine? And, if he wants to make the product purer can he just add some new isop. alco. to the goo left after evaporation and filter some more? Is acetone useful for anything when it comes to morning glory extractions? (he got a bunch laying around so just curious if he can use it for something in this process). Is this a good replacement for the naphta if SWIM want to do any rinsing anyway, and also can he do this after the alcohol extraction instead of before, in other words on the goo left after evaporation?
Also, do anyone know what is the actual amount of pure LSA needed for a decent trip, or lets say how much LSA would you find it for example 10 grams of morning glory seeds approximately?
Thanks and cheers-
darkbreed added 394 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...
Well for now SWIM decided to just go for it and try out with 35 grams of powderized morning glory seeds added in around half a liter of 99.9% isopropyl alcohol which have been left in a capped mug in a dark closet after shaking and stirring well. He will let it there for tomorrow and then filter it and perhaps add some more isopropyl alcohol on the leftovers for getting out more.
He read about several other people having good success with alcohol only exctractions, and also read that the bad stuff that causes nausea is not soluble in the alcohol, though he is not sure about the other baddie who causes the "fish eye" thing and other unpleasent side effects as it was not mentioned if this one is soluble or not in the alcohol.
He plans to split the resulting filtrated matter up in 3 doses.
Reports will be made in some days on the result and its effects, in the meanwhile anyone whom are familiar with the questions in my previous post may feel free to add some comments =)
darkbreed added 1334 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...
Update: Currently waiting for the evaporation to complete. The solution itself was a whiteish color but seem more yellowish now after filtration. Poured the upper part of solution slowly into a strainer with two kitchen paper towels in as filter, the lower part with the remaining seed sludge I poured into a sock and squeezed the juice through it and into the strainer with the paper towels. Greenish smudge was left on the paper after filtration, and the filtrated liquid is very clear and pure but as said with a yellowish color.
NOTE: I recommend a ventilated area when working with the isopropyl alcohol, I got pretty high from just inhaling the smell of the isopropyl alcohol during the process which took some time and this was something I had not expected. The effects are similar to those of huffing acetone and probably not very healthy.