Dose - Top up

[WhiteIsland]

I don’t find any straight answer to this topic (maybe because there is none) so would appreciate your input.

A thought scenarion. Say you are going to party destination and gonna stay there and have time for one long party. So you want to get maximum effect for as long period as possible. As you probably aren’t gonna use again for at least 6 months you don’t really care that it takes long to rebuild serotonin levels. You care about taking too much for the long term out-exed problem but have used a few times so know your body limitations.

In various reports some say its best to start with one, than take another half each hour. Others say to wait until you are really coming off, than take another full hit. Some yet say this is too late and will be wasteful (SWIM is confused as has experienced both).

Some prefer to double-drop while others say this is plain stupidity as your experience gets more speed like as too much takes away the euphoria. The double droppers think that waiting too long before really coming up waists a lot of the experience as the effect from the first part has partly vanished before it all has started working.

So what is best for such a night, start up slowly or to hit a double. And about recharging, follow time or when you start coming off? Is it like some combinations of startup and recharging that don’t work or work better than other?

[purplehaiz]

SWIM rolled for his first time recently. he took two within 20 minutes of each other. SWIM cant truly say whether or not this took away from the euphoria since he has no other experience to compare it with, but nontheless it was the best he has ever felt. it was still very euphoric.

also just those two kept swim rolling for a good 9+ hours. again, it was SWIM's first roll so that might not last as long for someone who has rolled in the past. but SWIM does know that even his very experienced E-tard friends still generally take either 2 or 3 but never any more and they always roll hard for a long time.

[bman1]

It depends on the pills. If it is a strong pill one shoul be good. If pure mdma 100-150mgs is a good strong roll and can take boosters after if desired. Some may think they get to speed when they ake two because of the speed in the pill. Does swim know what swim would be taking or have an idea of the amount of substance in them?

[WhiteIsland]

One of the problems on such destinations is that you get different stuff every time. It is always good but you don't know if is 60mg or 140mg in one. This is why SWIM was looking for some kind of generic "best way" as it seem to be all kind of impressions out there as to what you should/should not do and to a large extent they contradict eachother.

[Romie1985]

Problem is unless you know how many mg is in the pill its pretty much impossible to say. If you double dumped 2 x 60mg pills you would be fine but if you doubled 2 x 150mg pills you would most like be truely fucked up for acouple hours. Then most liekly the pills wont be pure so if you double dump, you could end up taking way to much nasty shit at one time which could end up in a bad trip.

SWIM finds its better to take one and then once the peak kicks in just redose and it should give you a nice and intense roll. Once your serotonine is depleted you cant just keep redosing cause it does nothing. SWIM once tried redosing with one pill after a 6 hour roll and it did nothing. Just remeber more isnt always better. Last time SWIM tripple dumped he made a fool of him self, could barely walk, did bizare and eratic things, chewed the fuck out of his face, walked into people and things, had no sense of space.

Unless SWIY has been abusing the drug and taking it for awhile, SWIM doesnt see any reason to why you would want to double dump as your tolerance should be fairly low.

Anyways thats SWIMS 2cents. Might be wrong, could be right but that is from his past experiences.

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good advice

[WhiteIsland]

SWIM usually double drops for two reasons. First, it reduces the time before SWIM gets any effect. It seldom takes less than 1.5 hour and usually 2 hours before SWIM gets any effect and he has taken E about 15-20 times he tells me.

Secondly is the effect it self of course. He has a high tollerance and as most random pills are lower than 120mg SWIM want to be sure of effect and he never gets really fucked up even if he takes higher than recommended dose all that happens with too high initial dose is that its impossible to top up. SWIM doesn't know if this is normal or a subjective experience.

SWIM still isn't sure what's best to do as to when to fill up but wil definately consider going back to start with one first.