Experiences - Mimosa hostilis & Syrian rue (Ayahuasca brew) First time.

[oggy]

Swim had his first Ayahuasca experience last night. 3-4 grams rue and 15 grams of powdered Mimosa were used.

Swim fasted for 3 days before following the MAO-I diet restrictions. He also took kratom about 6 hours before the ayahuasca brew to put him in a nice mood

Swim used a blender to powder and capped his Syrian rue 3-4 grams were used.

Next he used 1 organic lemon and 1 gram of vit C powder with 15 grams of powdered Mimosa in 300ml of water in a shaker and mixed every 5 minutes for 30 minutes, then lightly boiled for 20 minutes. Filtered the liquid and repeated this step with the remaining powder.

Swim had the rue then waited 15-20 minutes to drink the mimosa (he never boiled it down just put up with the taste)

20 minutes later he started feeling nauseous so he went to lie down in bed with the lights out trying not to think about it, then he got this body buzz and things started to happen, he could see a nice glow around everything. He managed to hold in down for 15-20 minutes then he ran to the bathroom and throw up it looked like the rue, but as he was throwing up he could see these amazing patterns when his eyes were closed. After he was sick he walked back into his bedroom and as he walked through everything looked amazing he could see clearly in the dark. He jumped into his bed and the covers felt wonderful and so did his body. He was getting loads of closed eye visuals and a little loss of ego, at one point he felt a little scared so he opened his eyes to see elves/aliens/angels in his room and they were so friendly. Swim could hear them talking but couldn't understand as they were talking elvish. Swim never saw their faces but they were beautiful and they were there to reassure Swim that everything was going to be ok. There was male and female but the female felt like she loved me like she was an angel of love, her hands were reaching out to me. The euphoria at this point was pure bliss and orgasmic, it was pure love. At one point it made Swim feel like a female in that loving nature. (maybe cos I'm a Virgo). There was other elves of love some male but they felt so close and reassuring whenever Swim felt a little scared. Healing angels they were, they felt like my family or even closer than my family. It was pure bliss and euphoria filled with love.

It never lasted long enough maybe 30 minutes, could have been longer or shorted, Swim never wanted to look at the time for some reason he never understood time anyway. It slowly fade away but everything still felt and looked wonderful, he felt truly happy, it made him realize how amazing life is and that love is far greater than he ever thought before, and that is loving everything and everyone.

Next time Swims is planing on trying Psychatria Viridis - 60g & Banisteriopsis Caapi - 60g. for less nausea.

Swim thinks it might have been the rue that made him sick. Mimosa can be a bit sickly too I've read.

Swim would like to have a good 3-4 hour trip with less nausea. Is there a way to make it last longer?

All in all it was great first time DMT experience and Swim might make this a weekly special.

If he could learn how to make a smokable DMT extract that would be awesome.

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	thanks for sharing
	good report :)
	great report
	Good report sir.

[Shampoo]

Great report! Thanks for sharing. If your friend is interested in making a smokeable, extracted DMT, which can also be encapsulated for dosing 'pharmahuasca', swim highly recommends the Marsofold tek as a good starting point.

Did swiy fast for spiritual or pharmacological purposes? and did this fast consist of a cessation of all consumption, or only those that conflict with MAO enzyme inhibitors?

Next time, a smaller amount of rue could be used, or an extraction could be done to isolate the harmala alkaloids. This will help avoid nausea.

[oggy]

Thanks Shampoo.

Swim fasted for pharmacological purpose, it was more of a test run next time he will try meditating for more spiritual experience. On the day he only had a small breakfast and took the brew at 10pm.

Swim is very interested in making a smokable extract. He plans to try a test run with 15 grams of mimosa. He can get isopropyl alcohol, could this be used instead of ammonia to wash the DMT? Will swan lighter fluid do instead of naptha? Can anything else work other than lye? Sodium bicarb? Edible lime powder?

[Shampoo]

Many times, a partially full stomach could aid bioavailability and digestion more than an empty one. Something to consider...

There are many threads about the Marsofold tek, just use the search engine. Lighter fluid works, but its not great, alcohol should not be used to wash, but an ammonia wash is not necessary if a good recrystalization is done. Sodium bicarb can work, but I have heard of people getting reduced yields from switching from lye to sodium bicarb.

[69Ron]

DMT has a pKa of 8.68. So at pH 8.68 50% is freebased. But you don't need a pH that high. You only need a tiny bit to be freebased to extract all of it when doing A/B liquid/liquid extractions. Efficiency drops with lower pH levels but not that much. At pH 6.68 1% is freebased. At pH 7.68 10% is freebased. At pH 8.68 50% is freebased. At pH 9.68 90% is freebased. At pH 10.68 99% is freebased. So you want a pH of at least 8 and up for a decent extraction. SWIM uses pH 9.5 and no higher. Higher pH levels destroy a lot of alkaloids (psilocin for example).

At pH 8 you'll need to do about 5 non-polar extractions to get most of the DMT. At pH 8.5, you'll need about 4. At pH 9.5-14, you'll need about 3. This is true for most DMT containing plants that SWIM has tested.

Here's a rundown of the sodium hydroxide options which SWIM has used which will work.

1) Sodium bicarbonate. This will bring the solution to pH 8.
2) Sodium carbonate. This will bring the solution to pH 11.
3) Calcium hydroxide. This will bring the solution to pH 12.
4) Ammonia. This will bring the solution to pH 11.

All of these except ammonia can be easily bought in food grade form.

SWIM's favorite is sodium carbonate. After finding that this works better than sodium hydroxide in SWIM's extractions, he stopped using sodium hydroxide altogether. Sodium carbonate seems to be better at preventing emulsions. Ammonia is also good, but it's hard to get food grade ammonia.

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Excellent advice

[Lobsang]

Really great report SWIy. I really enjoyed it.

[Expat98]

Originally Posted by oggy

HeLpMeEsCaPe from heroin addiction http://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34344

A question for you. I read the other post referenced in your signature line about SWIY wanting to break his heroin addiction. Do you feel that ayahuasca could help SWIY with this?

[oggy]

Originally Posted by Expat98

A question for you. I read the other post referenced in your signature line about SWIY wanting to break his heroin addiction. Do you feel that ayahuasca could help SWIY with this?

Swim is already 9 weeks clean (or maybe 10? Stopped counting now). But yes Swim feels that Ayahuasca would definitely help people quite their addictions. Swim feels as tho the DMT experience had helped a lot. He was starting to feel a bit low but after doing the Ayahuasca he feels great and can't wait to do it many more times.

Swim has 20 yopo seeds on the way and also 50 grams of Mimosa. He plans on doing an extraction with both. He only ordered 20 yopo seeds as the last 10 grams he got from his local ethnobotanical shop were bunk. He's read some really good reports on yopo experiences and wants to find a reliable supplier as someone said on this forum there is a lot of duff seeds going about.

Swim has found a new love for DMT. Swim always thought he would hate it since he freaked out big time on salvia. Mega panic attack! But after his freaky/spiritual cold turkey withdrawal experience from 120mg methadone and GBL he started to look into Ayahuasca and is now looking to learn more about himself by opening his mind with DMT.

Swim now has a hunger for knowledge and wisdom. Quite the opposite from drowning in downers!

Love n peace

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Sounds awesome - best of luck to SWIY!

[oggy]

Swim just brewed up 50 grams of mimosa this morning. He plans on splitting it with maybe 1 or 2 of his mates that are interested in alien entities as well. He's was planning on drinking it slowly over the course of an hour, 20 minutes after the rue, then he might be be less likely to vomit it back up (or as much up). He has 600ml of liquid and he thinks it should be enough for 4 doses. So if he they have 125ml each (12.5 grams) at 5, 25ml shots every 10 minutes (maybe 5). Then it will come on nice and slow, should have a nice peak and last longer.

They plan on doing the whole camping out in the wilderness for spiritual reasons. Should have another trip report soon.

[podge]

Originally Posted by oggy

Swim just brewed up 50 grams of mimosa this morning.

They plan on doing the whole camping out in the wilderness for spiritual reasons. Should have another trip report soon.

Excellent stuff oggy, good luck with it and keep us updated. Just one area of caution....make sure swiys friend has also thoroughly researched Ayahuasca before he embarks with swiy.