Health - What the....Over-dose?

[rollbabyroll]

SWIM took 6 e's over an 8-10hour time frame at a long rave on sat night. (Was taken slowly over the time frame, maybe one every two hours or so)SWIM had a great time, was the best roll he had ever had. He was feeling MDMA the way it was meant to be, not just the buzz effect but the sense of content with life, totally satisfied to the point that the euphoric thoughts kept SWIM so warm that he felt truley invincible. Eyes were rolling into the back of SWIMS head and this was SWIM's best dose of MDMA to date (out of 4 times).The night progressed and it was time for the last and final dose before the night would come to an end. SWIM took it down and didn't feel much as the steretonin levels had depleted, and the magic was finished.SWIM went to bed approx 3.5-4 hours after dropping. SWIM's freinds where sleeping together near swim when they started to talk to SWIM. SWIM was still chewing gum as his freinds where talking to him. ** This is where swim forgets what happened ** ...Only a handfull of hours (2-3) passed and SWIM with freinds awaken from sleep. SWIM is told by his freinds that he was shaking violently in his sleep and that it freaked SWIM's freinds out to the point that swims freinds parents where called in and SWIM was put on his side so he wouldn't spazm himself to death.SWIM awkwardly left the house when swims brother picked him up after recieving a phonecall from a scared freind of SWIM who witnessed the shaking. On the way home SWIM would ask to stop the car over every 5minutes and violently vomit. This would last for about 30minutes all the way home. Swim was scat the hole day and knew something had happened that normally wouldn't.SWIM think's a possible minor OD on MDMA? However, the side effects happened many hours (3-4 after dropping the last e). SWIM went to sleep easily after the dosings.Anyone able to comment on what there conclusion may be for SWIM?Thanks in advance

rollbabyroll added 9 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

Swim must add that, After dropping the first single pill of the night, 20 minutes later SWIM had massive jaw clenching and that was the only effect for approx 2hours before he redosed (no MDMA loved up feeling or buzzing etc like swims freinds).That was very strange as he rolled off the same pills approx 1month before it.

[purplehaiz]

SWIM does not know how much E it takes to OD, but he thinks its very likely that the reason this happened is that there was probably a lot of crap mixed in with SWIY's MDMA. possibly methamphetamine, or something. the fact that SWIY took a lot means that he/she got a lot of the bad chemicals as well. this could easily induce vomiting and mild siezures during sleep.

it is advisable to test E in the future or at the very least check out http://www.ecstasydata.org/ and look up what may be in the E SWIY will be taking so he/she can know if there is other crap mixed in. based on the info he/she can choose not to take this particular E, or if he/she still wants to roll from it, he/she can know to take less of it in order to avoid dangerous complications

[beena]

SWIM wonders if it's possible that SWIY's pills might've been cut with something?? Cocaine? Meth? GHB? SWIM has never heard of this happening due to MDMA but anything is possible with drugs, right?

[TMM]

I doubt it has much to do with purity, sounds to me exactly like a textbook MDMA overdose. Luckily, these tend just to make you feel like several sacks full of shit, rather than actually being life threatening. Take some time off - a month or more - and get the tolerance down. 6 pills is quite excessive; even considering the duration of the night that probably shouldn't be necessary, and is definitely asking for trouble.

[Panthers007]

Yep - SWIM was asking for trouble taking that ridiculous quantity in that short a period of time. Read up on proper dosage and waiting periods.

[rollbabyroll]

I think a little too much mixed with too much 'unkown' was the cause.....yeah SWIM will turn it down more than a notch next time, he was told that the comedown is one of the worst ever.

[drug-bot]

sounds like a mild mdma overdose. an od of mdma is virtually identical to an overdose of methamphetine or any amphetamine for that matter, because they are structually related. typiical signs are jaw clenching, blurry vision, increase blood pressure and heart rate, muscle jerks and twitches. it sounds like you had a mild to moderate mdma od, you need to be careful about how much you take in the future, it could have been much worse such as having convolsions, seizures, having an episode of cardiac arrithmia due to the increas heart rate which could turn into cardiac arrest, possibly having a stroke from the increase in blood pressure; all of these are symptoms of a seriuse mdma/amphetemine overdose and all of which could easily result in DEATH!
swim hates to repeat himself but BE CAREFUL!

[Greenport]

SwiM has heard cases of people overdosing and having similar issues with as little as three really good pills. She feels that past two generally a bee is flying into some deep waters and that should be avoided.

While mild MDMA use can be very beneficial overall to a person, in terms of both physical and mental health, doing too much or too often can cause neurons in the brain to detach and potentially reattach improperly or not at all. Not to mention taking six of them is very likely to cause serious problems.

Don't become a statistic.

[vantranist]

Meh its not uncommon around here to do 4-5 pills a night (good quality)

at a rave people will be doing 10+ of the same pills.

vantranist added 0 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by drug-bot

sounds like a mild mdma overdose. an od of mdma is virtually identical to an overdose of methamphetine or any amphetamine for that matter, because they are structually related. typiical signs are jaw clenching, blurry vision, increase blood pressure and heart rate, muscle jerks and twitches. it sounds like you had a mild to moderate mdma od, you need to be careful about how much you take in the future, it could have been much worse such as having convolsions, seizures, having an episode of cardiac arrithmia due to the increas heart rate which could turn into cardiac arrest, possibly having a stroke from the increase in blood pressure; all of these are symptoms of a seriuse mdma/amphetemine overdose and all of which could easily result in DEATH!
swim hates to repeat himself but BE CAREFUL!

lol if that a meth/mdma overdose than swim OD's every time he gets high.

[Wierd Logic]

If pills avg. at about 100mg of MDMA, that is a hell of a lot of MDMA, and I'm sure the impurities that were amost certainly present didn't help. Get pure MDMA! You can know exactly how much of what you're putting into your body and avoid this

[pinokio]

SWIM cant understand these irresponsible and incompetent MDMA uses (6 E??:O), but hey, its your life.

[rollbabyroll]

You all keep forgetting the wierd thing is this happened near the end of comedown for SWIM... approx 4 hours after the last pill was dropped...not during the intense peak or come up!

SWIM dropped again approx 3 weeks ago and the same thing happened after 2.5 where taken...exact same on come down not during the peak....duration of the club was approx 10pm - 4am and got home 5am for sleep.... so thats like 4+ hours after come down..

SWIM did have some good visuals while under the influence (while coming down)...the two picture frames on the wall of the club looked like air vents and everyone in the club was wearing reading glasses...(every1 who dropped pills from different batches saw reading glasses that night on people) and the thicklong wires on the roof connecting together somthing (prob speakers) looked like snakes...

If SWIM drops is it advisable that he shouldn't sleep and just stay awake untill he cant stay awake any longer? SWIM doesn't want to say good by forever to the love drug but does agree he must prioritise.

Weird thing is that swim has dropped before on approx 4 occasions prior to the last two and has never (as far as his aware) this issue of a seizure during sleep near end of comedown.

SWIM only remembers his teeth chattering very hard (about 3seconds) with tingling sensation in the teeth while in lying in bed, felt like an extremeley cold chill then SWIM woke up and was being investigate by two amublance paramedics in his bed :S

Somthing I hope noone has to look through. According to the paramedics when they first arrived @ the property SWIM's body was heavy and seen as 'dead weight' and could not be moved.

Maybe MDMA is not a drug for SWIM after-all?

rollbabyroll added 1 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

Should swim maybe take a LONG break before droping again? SWIM is only 19 and can wait maybe 2-3 years before re-attempting to drop again if it means his saving his life?

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[Panthers007]

Saving his life? How about his brain for starters.

Here is SWIM - floating over his bed in the Institution: (SWIM's friend) "But Doctor - he said he really LOVED those snakes coming out of the air-vents! Is this so wrong?" "No, but at what price? What price? Oh well...he'll be happy here...we make excellent baskets."

Read: Cut the crap. If SWIM is going to be a human being making decisions - SWIM should study and be responsible.

[alpine]

Meh its not uncommon around here to do 4-5 pills a night (good quality)

at a rave people will be doing 10+ of the same pills.

This isn't something you should try to pass as normal. Doing 4-5 pills in a night, yes that is common but SWIM is a raver and wouldn't advise anyone to take 10 tabs in a night. Not to say people don't, but it isn't advisable. It is the 4th time this person rolled when they experienced the overdose, they would have probably been fine on 2 tabs and 1 for a redose.

[rollbabyroll]

4th time = RAVE and mild o/d with vomiting and issues listed in earlier post.

5th time (three weeks later) = 2.5 pills taken, same duration (diff batch) and SWIM had a seizure on come down after he went to bed?

Is it a coincidence or is it that e is not the drug for SWIM to take? Keep in mind SWIM has dropped 5 pills prior to this on his first experience and the worst issue was probably the SCATness.

SWIM has dropped 1 pill early in a night and went to bed probably around 8 hours later (well and truly after the more 'immediate come down') and woke up fine.

SWIM's friend has two pure caps (probably with fillers but not as bad as a tab) which he may take one very early on in the night @ the rave in the hopes that he will be off the immediate come down by the time he hits the sack aka bed...

SWIM just wants to know if he will be able to drop again ? If he does it would prob be just 1 pill even at a rave and when SWIM's friends re-dose i guess SWIM will need to be happy that he is still alive and had the chance to drop at that 1 tab...

SWIM definitely has learnt a lesson to respect this strong drug and as always it's not until something happens to you do you think you’re invincible... SWIM is 'F-ing' puzzled. Why did SWIM get sick AFTER the pill wore off? Most OD's happen when under the influence during the 'peak' ?

What are all your views on SWIMS situation? Should SWIM risk dropping 1 pure cap early on in the night with NO-REDOSE or should he give it a rest until new years and drop the same cap then @ a bigger RAVE under the same circumstances? Or should SWIM just try to not drop ever again =(

It must be noted that SWIM has dropped before other than these last two occasions which he got sick on and had no out of the ordinary issues other than the normal scat in the morning, and one two of those occasions dropped the same amount of e.

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