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Old 01-07-2008, 10:25
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How much do drugs actually improve sex?

What's everyone's general opinion on this, luckily due to his current situation swim has been fortunate to have access to a wide variety of drugs and frequent sex. So this is really the first time in his life he's had enough knowledge to even post in this sub-forum (besides for weed, and a dim afterglow of cocaine done earlier in the day).

Anyway swim has had the fortune trying sex on MDMA, marijuana, opiates, viagra, hallucinogens, cocaine, propylhexedrine (benzedrex), downers, phenibut and of course alcohol. Now based on these new ranges of experience, they were interesting but compared to how great sex already was are just small improvements. And maybe not even improvements, sometimes they were just a change to the normal feelings, so it was exciting and curious to try something new, even if the original flavor is still better.

It's like winning a free Ferrari, compared to winning a free Ferrari with the GPS option included, or maybe even winning a Red Ferrari instead of a yellow. Is that how is it for most people here, or do drugs add a mind-blowing significant increase?

It could be that swim's partner is both an amazing lover and the two are really in love and enjoy each other a lot, so maybe the brain's "sex enjoyment meter" is already near the top as it is. If you were winning a free Ferrari, is there really any included option that would be able to increase your excitement levels by much than the original hysteria?

Swim's partner suggested after their MDMA experience that she already feels so connected to him that she couldn't tell which feelings of love were from the drug and which came from how she feels about swim normally. MDMA was definitely the biggest letdown, the nausea was too much to be playful in any vigorous way, a lot of the time was spent feeling thirsty, hungry, hot, cold, the need to move, the need to sit down, shortness of breath, or just plain like something was uncomfortable while holding each other in bed. The sex felt a little bit better, and pleasuring her was very enjoyable. But mantaining an erection and exerting heavy physical effort for long periods of time (what can swim say, he's an ambitious, hard worker) kept posing problems that in swim's mind might outweigh the good. Swim though that weed was much better then MDMA for sex enhancement, and his partner definitely thought so. Plus the comedown was rough, and swim is usually not used to feeling the "ecstasy emotional hangover."

But I digress, how do other posters feel about how much drugs enhance sex compared to the original pleasure of sober sex? And is their different types of sex that drugs enhance, romantic sex, playful sex, revenge fucking, special occasion sex, first-time sex, breakup sex, one night stands, hookup buddy sex, honeymoon sex, gay or straight sex, masturbation, orgies, bondage, bloodplay, cosplay? Of course answers may vary by specific substance or substance combinations.

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Old 01-07-2008, 11:46
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

When swim first started taking opiates swim used to love having sex on them as it would last for what seemed like ever and it would feel really good also but once swim had been on opiates for quite a while it was like giving swim bromide as swim completely lost swims sex drive.
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Old 01-07-2008, 12:49
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Opiates seem to be abit like a chemical kosh as far as sex is concerned as the more time you take them the lower your sex drive is and when you do actually get around to it it ends up either taking you to the gates of heaven or it's a wham bam thankyou mam.
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Old 01-07-2008, 17:04
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Various psychoactives directly effect genital sensitivity so this can be seen as enhancement of the experience in a sense. Take for example weed. It delays orgasm but seems to prolong the actual orgasm itself when it arrives. It also seems to produce a type of full body orgasm that stretches throughout one's body in the moments immediately after orgasm. This may not be everyone's experience but it has been SWIM's. Unfortunately he doesn't have any experience having sex on other drugs (besides booze but there's no point going into that) but then again, he hasn't been using any other drugs besides alcohol and cannabis for quite some time.
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

In the grand scheme of things, if the flamingo had to choose between sex and drugs, then it really wouldn't be any kind of choice: The sex would win.

While she has had incredible experiences of altered sex the randomness of it all could be incredibly frustrating, if you went into it with any kind of ulterior motive. You have to proceed on the principle: if it happens, wonderful, if not, Oh Well!

Too hot? Too cold? A bit nauseous? Hallucinations at inopportune moments? Lubrication failure? Rather just be cuddling/wrapped up in a blanket/dancing? A bit hungry? Cramp?

All of these are issues (or could be), if you're not completely comfortable with a partner. The flamingo can't imagine altered sex with anyone other than a trusted soulmate, someone who will accept you (whatever).

The low-down: Sober sex is consistent (as long as you know what you're doing ), altered sex can offer a different dimension, but can't be counted on

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Old 02-07-2008, 11:16
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

40mg ephedrine + 200mg caffeine = awesome sex

The caffeine revs me up like crazy. I get turned-on in an aggressive way, and that really helps when I want to have high-energy sex.
Ephedrine is similar, but a bit different. It's more an internal arousal. As sort of a vague description of the feeling, it's like I'm having sex in my own mind, but it's very focused, and I stay aroused for a very long period of time.
Mix the two together, and the result is high energy sex where I still have a boner even after 'finishing' several times.

I don't know if it's just me, but without drugs there's generally a few minute cooldown period between sessions. Sex, finish, cooldown period, erect again, sex again, finished again, cooldown period again. When taking ephedrine and caffeine, there is no cooldown period. Sex, finish, keep going, finish again, keep going, finish again, keep going.

One of my friends is taking Adderall, and my ex girlfriend was taking Dexedrine. Both of them reported similar non-stop arousal, so maybe that's something to look into. Someone will probably say that meth and cocaine are good for sex, and that may be true, but it seems silly to go around breaking laws when a perfectly legal alternative is available.

edit: Think twice about having sex after smoking marijuana. One of my friends said it was awesome, but then I spoke to his girlfriend and she said it sucked ass. You might be having fun, but it won't be very fun when your gf dumps you because you suck in bed. That goes for all drugs, not just pot. Consider what your partner is experiencing, and ask yourself if you'll ever have sex with your woman again, based on your last performance. A high energy experience like Adderall is shared, whereas tripping out because you're stoned only applies to you, and your partner will not enjoy that at all.

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Old 02-07-2008, 13:28
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Sex is simply enhanced with drugs according to Jesus C. He says he loves smoking reefer and fucking as it increases physical sensation and mental awareness.
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Old 02-07-2008, 16:20
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

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I don't know if it's just me, but without drugs there's generally a few minute cooldown period between sessions. Sex, finish, cooldown period, erect again, sex again, finished again, cooldown period again. When taking ephedrine and caffeine, there is no cooldown period. Sex, finish, keep going, finish again, keep going, finish again, keep going.
The refractory period is the bane of the male gender. If what you say about ephedrine and caffeine is true, this could be interesting...
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Old 02-07-2008, 17:28
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

No one here has mentioned amfetamine though. Swim, while not particularly a fan of any stimulant, thinks dexedrine, adderall, or just some good ol' speed will be a little more like getting the GT model instead of a bonus GPS. Sex on amfetamines, for swim atleast, goes for MUCH longer than normal, and is consistently pleasurable throughout the experience.
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Old 30-07-2008, 17:25
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Taking 100mg of tramadol and then about two or three hours later smoking a good spliff of some sativa, usually makes for extremely good sex. The tramadol delays orgasm for pretty much as long as you want, along with making you feel extremely good to begin with. And the cannabis can make the sensations a lot more powerful, sometimes resulting in full body orgasm.
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Old 30-07-2008, 20:16
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Certain chems can and will increase the pleasurability of sexual activities, or so someone said one time. Substances like meth, amph, 2cb, amt, mdma, and for some cocaine increase sexual desire and pleasure. Extra sensory explosion is how a person could describe the effect of these substances on the sexual experience.

The stims will allow a someone to indulge in fantasies which may be closeted during normal, sober sex. Taking these chems with other people who swiy can act out sexual desires will be very rewarding. Yes, the feeling part of sex feels much better- like a whole body feeling instead of genital concentration for the stimulus. The mental part of sex is also more developed and to understand it, one must experience this under the influence sex.
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Old 31-07-2008, 00:26
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Well SWIM has memories of sex but he cannot have sex anymore. But he will say this. That he found LSD to be the best sex drug. Ouside of the mental level it takes people to and the energetic levels there are also physical effects. Like dialating blood vessels in the pelvis.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:52
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

when a man and woman come together as one to make love while under the influence of large doses of LSD, well, SWIM heard from his friend that it is the most mindblowing bonding experience there is. Swim would also recommend hitting a nitrous balloon at the point of orgasm, were that legal
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

my pet monkey told me this:

I would say it would improve it, I love to smoke and get high then have sex. But if you do this with X, normal sex will never be as good again.

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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

SWIM usually has sex sober. Or after a few beers. Here is what has been noted

Cannabis: sensations are increased, it becomes very intense, overall makes sex better and more intimate. If one is too high, it make seem awkward, however. SWIM recommends cannabis and sex.

Opiates: numb your feelings, and your dong. Hard time finishing. Do not recommend

Steroids: not the same as regular drugs, but you will feel like an animal. SWIM has never had better sex than he has had when on cycle. Makes it a bit more aggressive

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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

SWIMS experience:

Sex on cannabis = heavenly delight. Everything is hotter, hornier, more sensual...in SWIMS younger and less romantically committed years a favorite hobby was to shack up with an f-buddy and do nothing but smoke and play with each other for days at a time.

Sex on alcohol= no thanks for swim. Swim likes to FEEL and feels like alcohol dulls the feeling.

Sex on opiates= Swim maintains a high drive while on opiates, and swim can last forever during intercourse on these, but swim lasts too long. Yes it is great for Her that SWIM can last forever in this state, but not so great for SWIM as SWIM will want to eventually nut and thats not gonna happen for SWIM on opiates.

Sex sober= 'thats swell', but SWIM is a pervert and minus any sensory-enhancing chemicals, SWIM will want a special experience that pushes the natural chemistry to an extreme.

Sex on strong hallucinogens (like lsd) = no thanks. SWIM sees asymmetrical shit in partners face and tends to experience things a way that is a bit too objective to enjoy the experience. Like thinking of things in terms of penis and vagina and reproductive procecess and zygotes (?) and stuff. When swim trips swim goes into total left brain mode and default thinks through sex instead of feeling through sex.

Sex on cocaine = unfortunately swim cannot give a qualified answer because any time swim has dne coke it has been in combination with multiple other substances. SWIM has heavy experience in doing the other above substances on their own and so feels that some kind of 'informed' opinion can be articulated.

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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

SWIM thinks they vastly differ but poly mixing does create odd reactions Thc - lazy party but enjoyable since SWIM's girl snuck up on him in half sleep bj lap ride Opiates - same with a dash of alcohol dullness Upper - fight to keep above full but not rock hard but always 1+ hyperactive bottom out at cervex pounding hours Mdma ect - upper + thc vibe but previous to major long term relationship clear cut urge to act 'slutty' lol lack of reckless nature resulted in not seeking out random penis via clubs or net Thc + mdma - right on the brink of taking up female friends bi friends offers after she relayed or pasted combo ramblings of SWIM
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

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The refractory period is the bane of the male gender. If what you say about ephedrine and caffeine is true, this could be interesting...
The word we're looking for here is 'yohimbe'. Seriously. I can't say caffeine has ever done anything great for me sexually, and I imagine taking a large dose before nooky would just be unpleasant (jitters, racing heart, need to piss all the time...) - but yohimbe *destroys* the male refractory period. You will be coming again, and again, and again. Works wonders for wimmin, too. Plus it makes the actual sensation more intense.
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

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my pet monkey told me this:

I would say it would improve it, I love to smoke and get high then have sex. But if you do this with X, normal sex will never be as good again.
Oh I absolutely agree! Swim has been waitin for 8 long years for sex to be amazing and a wonderful high within itself! Hooray! Swim is swimming!
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Speed makes swim the horniest man on earth, whether im with someone or not Of course you get speed willy too, so the viagra/sildefanil can help. Can't think any downers would help with sex, but swim knows GHB is famous for its pro-sex aspect.
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But if you do this with X, normal sex will never be as good again.
This is just complete rubbish. I mean, by all means talk about your (or SWIY's) personal experiences, but SWIM I seriously doubt most people who've had sex on ecstasy (which is probably most people who've used ecstasy, eventually) would say it makes sober sex disappointing.

For one thing, it's impossible to come while you're very high! (SWIM tells me)
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Some bum I met on the street who got hit by a bus right after he told me this said that Phenibut, at least the first couple times he took it at pretty low doses (1000 mg or less) produced an AMAZING enhancement of the feeling of sex. Not like the sort of wide eyed wonder of pot, but a direct stimulation of the prostate area that made my bum feel like he was a foot long (he wasn't) and dramatically enhanced the way the genital stimulation felt. Also, the increase mental confidence during the sexual act, he reported, was at least as much of the enhancement of the sex as the physical aspect. He said it was hard to explain exactly what he meant by that, but it was there. He further reported that the ability to feel the enhancment lasted into the next day, well after the immediate effects of the drug wore off.

However, he reported that subsequent doses of Phenibut did not produce this effect. He wondered if he would ever get that feeling back.
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Re: How much do drugs actually improve sex?

Let me be your black sheep now.

I hardly have any sex when sober anymore mostly because in that state my libido is second to some other preoccupation. Whereas on drugs (talking phet here generally although mdma or weed are fun as well) I can easily get horny as hell, especially towards the end of a prolonged, 48-72h lasting shift. Sex works best for me when I'm tired and drained, almost never got any problem with erection, more like the other way round: sometimes I will put on a monstrous performance not only surprising the girl in question but even myself.

Sensually I wouldn't exactly call sober sex inferior although my body is definitely more responsive drugged up. When it comes to orgasms though, the "clean" ones are simply no match to the apocalyptic intensity resetting every cell of my body I'm always getting when "under".

Having said that, alcohol kills my senses pretty quickly, and even if I manage to maintain erection, there would usually be difficulties ejaculating.

Oh, and no doubt a good part of all this is because of psychological not physical reasons.

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