Health - Alcohol Feind Syndrome

[brooklyn718]

How many of us here suffer form this syndrome? Let me explain further, it is the feeling after you peak from your alcohol that you need another drug (with me weed) to feel good. I havnt drank in a while but I want to one weekend in the next few weeks. I know the experiance of drinking is greatly diminished after I begin to feind other substances. I cannot just have a few drinks, I will go on a fiending frenzy cleaning resin from pipes starting to try to smoke that, look all around for buds, its terrible!! Why cant I enjoy a drink or 2? Even after abstaining from all drugs for months, a few drinks makes me crave for mostly pot.


Does anyone experiance this? If so what do you do to increase your pleasure from alcohol alone, any supplements vitamins etc. to make a few drinks a pleasurable experiance rather than a 6 hour long drug craze?? Help!!! I and others need that legal euphoria back!!!

[mattp]

I would say that once you start drinking and get some pleasure, you
want a more intense experience, whether it amplifying the alcohol with
pot, or just wanting to be more fucked up than you already are. if you
want to stay awy from the pot, just drink more and hopefully that will
help.

SWIM always fiends for benzos after a long night of drinking, even though he doesnt need them.

[Muirner]

Brooklyn718- Yea SWIM knows your issue with drinking and pot, his best friend even has this same thing. When SWIM gets drunk he always fiends pot because it is something that he can calm down with and have a wicked good drunk with. But he must admit that being straight drunk is really fun and when he drinks a lot he tries to stay away from pot because it brings down the drunk and gets him ready to go to sleep. So when SWIM is ready to pass out a nice bowl infront of him and off to sleepy land


Muirner

[FrankenChrist]

Drinking sometimes gives me the urge to smoke, and I hardly ever smoke. Tobacco, that is.

The combo of alcohol and weed has gotten me to do some pretty dumb stuff, like forgetting things (really important if you need to hide certain items from certain people).This is why I avoid it.Edited by: FrankenChrist

[hippie_lain]

Drinking is my number one trigger for me. Usually want tobacco then coke or weed. Then i want more whiskey. I cant seemed to be satified with a buzz either.

[Psilocybe S.]

Okay, this is how it works with me:

I drank for about 365 days straight, got alcohol poisoning once, and now, 2 years later, I drink about 4 times a week. It takes me about 2 40's or 4 shots of 151 to get a buzz good enough to go without another drug. Otherwise, I wont even touch alcohol without some coke or pot.

[robbie_p99]

thought i'd post this to mabey get some advise, to hear of anyone with similar experiences. Mainly its about blanking out on booze, not remembering what i've said, done been etc. Also during these periods i tend to become very argumentative say and do shit i don't mean. Be very arsey causing problems..ie read on.i'm firstly going to post an e-mail i've just recieved from my girlfriend and then my response from the other night. i'd been drinking all afternoon/ night then called her up at midnight and persuaded her to come out for some more drinks at a couple of late bars...after this i don't remember a thing, fucking annoying as i'm sure you can imagine, here goes..

[robbie_p99]

<DIV>written weds morn.......</DIV>
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<DIV>not entirely sure wot u were playin at last nite, uve gt little to no consideration for anyone elses feelings and apparently nt mine last nite. no doubt ul claim tht u dnt remember wot u said and tht ul put it down 2 the amount of alcohol u drank. quite frankly nt everyone behaves like tht afta afew drinks and all of last nte wen i wasnt sleeping, i was ignoring u and wondering why i was there and taking all the shit u were throwing at me. i realised tht i ddnt deserve it and tht no-one shood hav 2 put up wiv wot i had 2 last nte. </DIV>
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<DIV>u were rude and inconsiderate. at one point u said tht i coodve walked hme if i wntd and i dnt knw why i ddnt. i shoodve. it might hav made urealise the job ud dne on me. i dnt knw why i ddnt walk, i jst lay there thinkin tht i ddnt want 2 and certainly ddnt hav 2 take all the psycho babbling shit u were throwing at me. </DIV>
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<DIV>i knw ure nt always like tht, bt it does make me wonder why u r wen u r! myb u do drink 2 much and if u cnt control wot ure sayin and wot u do thn myb u shood do sumfin about it. thn again, wot do i knw? myb u wntd 2 say everything u said. thts probably why i coodnt gt an apology out of u. </DIV>
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<DIV>thts all i hav 2 say, i am really sad ths morning, balls in your court. </DIV>
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<DIV>i rote tht on weds morn wen i had loads of anger inside me frm tht nite, hav calmed down since and im nt tht mad nw, bt unfortunately, ur call last nte ddnt really make thngs any clearer in the sense tht u still didnt apologise and really acted like there was nothing rong. </DIV>
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<DIV>all i needed was an apology from u tht u actually meant and wivout me asking for it. im nt asking u because im trying to make u feel bad or because i want to hear it, bt because u dd sumfin rong and i want u 2 acknowledge it. im sorry if u thnk im over-exagerating or anything, bt its hw i feel. </DIV>
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<DIV>let me knw hw u feel about wot iv said, i really dnt wana sound like a drama queen or 2 wind u up, bt i fort i mite as well send the email frm weds 2 let u knw hw i felt thn. i ddnt hav any intention of doing so, bt im feelin tht its nt such a bad idea nw.</DIV>

[robbie_p99]

i've just got up, another early start! i actually dreamt last night i was watching a video of me when i was drunk it made for rather scary viewing, very surreal to then turn on my phone get a text from you and then check my e-mails. Hmm I’ll start off by saying sorry, you said I’d say it and I will it was the huge amounts of alcohol talking, think mainly the whiskey. But a do remember being a dick more so than normal, you really should leave someone in that kind of state to it, subconsciously I think I was trying to push you to your limit, test the depth of the water. I don’t know at what point I turned but I guess you shouldn’t have been there to see it, was in a destructive mood that night get like that sometimes, maybe a medical term for it out there! Advice to you would be don’t stand for that kind of shit, storm off walk away, why subject yourself to that kind of shit. I would if I wasn’t stuck in this skin!
Joe said to me unlike other people who get to a stage of drunk then either vomit or pass out because they’ve drunk to much , it rarely happens to me and normally there’s not enough drink! Very scary the amount of hours of my life I don’t remember through drink. I don’t remember anything that I said and rarely do after I get into that kind of state my mind blanks it, split personality, jeckll and hyde, of course I always tell myself this is a load of shit and ignore any kind of possibility it could be true because the thought like anything being that seriously wrong to be honest scares me. Another factor could be I don’t want to remember.

i've left out personal bits but i guess you get the general jist of it, i suppose i could try and not drink so much but theres no stopping me after a few i need more and more!

[brooklyn718]

Wow alcohol sucks lol. I had a glass of beer, and felt pretty good, like usual,I could have felt decent with no come down, but like always I drank more. I had another few glasses, did not think about weed, but then realized the alcohol is a shitty high without any other drug, "a shame" i thought "I donnt see how this can be abused" maybey im one of the lucky ones who wont become alcoholic, because i see its effects alone are shit.

[robbie_p99]

well no surprises there seeing it is a depressive and i can see your point that it has its benefits mixed with other drugs, also itis freely available and the most popular mind-altering drug in the world, at times when its hard to score weed/coke whatever your mode of choice the offie, pubs, bars and clubs are still there serving alchohol therefore at alot of times the drug of choice.

[billbong]

no matter how much i drink i always need a good bong rip.a little saying to help prevent whiteys.
WEED THEN BEER, YOUR IN THE CLEAR, BEER THAN WEED THEN YOUR IN NEED

[Sway]

Originally Posted by billbong

no matter how much i drink i always need a good bong
rip.a little saying to help prevent whiteys.
WEED THEN BEER, YOUR IN THE CLEAR, BEER THAN WEED THEN YOUR IN NEED

Good advice, I often get home after a night of drinking and think that
a bowl is a great idea but it tends to just fuck me up, I tend to do
stupid shit and remember nothing. Though having a few beers while
getting high is great.



Just know your own limits I say.

[i like wimmins]

Originally Posted by robbie_p99

thought i'd post this to mabey get some advise, to hear of anyone with similar experiences.

Yes. Yesyesyes. a million times yes I have experienced this, my man. My friends and I call it "going to the bad place". It is the worst experience imaginable for someone who cares about you. You aren't in control, you are needlessly aggressive and hurtful, and you won't remember a thing. it looks like you, it sounds like you, and it brings up things that you would remember - this leads inexpeienced people to feel that when you are in this state that you can be reasoned with, or that they can talk you out of it. they can't. and it sucks and its sad. Tell your GF that the next time she sees you going into "the bad place" to just straight up leave. it may seem rude/cruel, but you aren't going to remember shit, and it'll be like to whole episode never happened IF and only if you are left alone to sleep it off. Besides, ditching you when you are piss-ass tanked is nowhere NEAR as evil as the crap that can come out of your mouth unprovoked.
I didn' know this, but my friends used to try for hours to talk to me when i was in that state, and i would wake up with all these handwritten notes and emails and i would be all, "uh, wtf are you guys talking about?" I could apologize a hundred times, never knowing how bad it was .
they taped it for me. it was gross. I looked like a cliched drunk. slurring out the side of my mouth with my eyes half closed. Yelling at people about random shit even though they were standing 6 inches away from my face. Horrible.
My advice for you: Dont drink so often. Decreasing your frequency will help get your control back.
My advice for your friends/gf: Don't listen to a word you say. Ignore your ass or leave so that you can pass out.

Good luck

[purplehaze]

"I will go on a fiending frenzy cleaning resin from pipes starting to try to smoke that, look all around for buds, its terrible!!"


Yeah i do that and i don't even like alcohol, when i do drink i always like to have bud because it mellow's me out and keep's me from bouncing off the walls and then throwing up. Plus i always like to see if i can smoke enough to see if the weed will outweigh the drink. Still i usually throw up nomatter what when i drink, it's like im fucking allergic or something.

[butter]

i'm with billbong always need a good rip when drinking. Rarely drink so when I do I just get plastered. But without causing disturbance.

[purplehaze]

robbie_p99
"im sorry if u thnk im over-exagerating or anything, bt its hw i feel."


Never Apologize for saying how u feel cuz that's like apologizing for being real.

[scrappy]

Weed and liquor is my favorite combination of drugs...I feind for it just like brooklyn but I don't find it a bad thing...I just enjoy the combination =/