Life as a video game

[mickenator]

When swim was first experimenting with drugs swim and a few other fishes where having a debate on the nature of life and swim came up with this analogy that life is like a video game say someone up there like god puts his 50p in the machine and decides that your life is the game he will play, he plays out your day to day shit and decides what it is you will do, this game carries on until you eventually die and then the person playing out life's game is over. Just wondering if anyone else has ever had these kind of thoughts while theyv'e been awake and hammered on god knows what ?

[ReAlitY-HoLds-NonE]

Not a new or particularly strange thought, SWIM had the thought when he was 13 after his first philosophy class in high school... ahh how education lead to the unlearning of physical reality!..
SWIM has come to realize however that all revelations are equally invalid as they are valid, all are actually true, and none are 'stand alone' true but only accurate when they are presented together, somehow.. anyone heard of the leaky bucket theory?.. well that, basically.

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Agreed. Reality is whatever you make it.

[KurroKi]

Yeah… my buddy who left me his journal once wrote “I have seen so clearly a hallway with an uncountable number of doors that have lead off into every scenario that could have ever existed and by chance I happen to live within this single door in which if one thing was changed I might not exist.” I think what he might have been trying to say is something along the lines that our reality defiantly does feel like we have some type of controller “playing” our character throughout our daily life. However, “personally” (whatever that means now) I kind of despise those types of thoughts because if the controller is playing my character then I loss control over my personal choice…just seems to make me feel like a tool, I try to avoid being chained at all costs…unless its me playing my own character, then I suppose my goal is to look for some cheat codes.

[Oneiros]

It is not by chance that we happen to live within that single door, it is simply a matter of cause and effect. Those possible branches, those alternate realities, are manifestations of our imaginations; the "what if's" that we are constantly asking ourselves day in and day out. Personal choice and free will are illusory. There are reasons behind each and every one of your choices, be they conscious or unconscious, physical or psychological. Chained is just what we are: a complex chain of causality links everything and everyone in the present through the history of the universe and back to the origins of the universe itself. There are no cheat codes in this reality, for we are all subject to the laws of physics, without exemption.

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Very well said.

[KurroKi]

Unfortunately I agree, there is no such thing as the force…but if your tripping balls then all the imagination in the world is not enough to satisfy the lust of control over reality, its not about philosophy its more about artistic expressions of ones imagination.

[stoneinfocus]

Originally Posted by KurroKi

Yeah… my buddy who left me his journal once wrote “I have seen so clearly a hallway with an uncountable number of doors that have lead off into every scenario that could have ever existed and by chance I happen to live within this single door in which if one thing was changed I might not exist.” I think what he might have been trying to say is something along the lines that our reality defiantly does feel like we have some type of controller “playing” our character throughout our daily life. However, “personally” (whatever that means now) I kind of despise those types of thoughts because if the controller is playing my character then I loss control over my personal choice…just seems to make me feel like a tool, I try to avoid being chained at all costs…unless its me playing my own character, then I suppose my goal is to look for some cheat codes.

This all sounds more like a conservative brain-washing of the christian monotheism, wanting us to change nothing. Change is possible and taking things to another outcome, than they would be, if you stayed on the most conservative side and I would be hard pressed, if that would mean the end of my existence or provocing the anger of some super-natural being or player, which/who would hinder the outcome, I had chosen, trying to achieve, by applying different mechanisms, conciously. (using the laws of nature and playing with the chaos of human interactions and intuitively using this chaos, the laws of nature are effecting and altering, inbetween this chaotic system).

[KurroKi]

Yeah that would be an amazing gift if one was able to achieve such insight as to hone ones spirit to able to intertwine with another’s existence….however, that is most likely all fantasy and a result of a creative imagination but nevertheless it is a very fascinating. Unfortunate for a lot of people if this power was real HAHAHA. very perceptive about the “conservative brain-washing of the Christian monotheism” that was a great way of putting the fact that some people are doomed to think they are chained into a single existence that cannot be altered, it sure would take a lot of interest out of life if our fate was written down before we had the chance to make our choice…but this is all talk and speculation, by no means can we ever claim to know truth of such depth to say “this is how this works or does not work” when talking of ones imagination or spirituality there is no such thing as right or wrong.

[mickenator]

The trouble with alot of people they are afraid of whats outside there little box called imagination and anyone who tries to get these out of there box is called and labled as being out-there and abit weird but you know what they say it takes alot to make the world go round.

[Euthanatos93420]

Wake up NEO, you are the ONE

Anagram.

Neo- means NEW

[Richard_smoker]

one night, while tracking my dreams and at the height of an opiate detoxification experience (complete with physical rigors--heavy shaking, chills, etc.), there was a very surreal experience that was seen in the dream state which was uncannily video-game-like.

all i can say is this--there was a 2-dimensional map (like an '80's atari game), that i just watched as ANOTHER PERSON played out. there were all sorts of jewels, artifacts, and assorted images all representative of life's many choices, actions, mistakes, lessons both learned and unlearnt, maturity, self-realization, self-importance, and a type of unity of a profoundly religious significance.

needless to say, there were some complicated problems, mostly visual-spatial in nature, and each set of clues could be arranged together in their correct orientation within a certain family of clues... all the while, little "Dig-Dug" truck was being moved around this 'universe' completely controlled by a seemingly-highly-intelligent force....do I "believe" in a different level of intelligence or a different BEING creating that map, and lying out the clues, and then actually CONTROLLING the 'video game' in such a way that totally blew my mind?

not really. but it did give me an enormous boost in confidence for carrying out the detoxification...just knowing that SOMETHING SOMEHOW inside my own psyche was powerful enough to discover, create, and enable this 'performance' for me to view reminded me of how LITTLE I have been using my mind, and how INfrequently it operates (if ever) at its peak. -DICK

[ADVOR]

Originally Posted by ReAlitY-HoLds-NonE

Not a new or particularly strange thought, SWIM had the thought when he was 13 after his first philosophy class in high school... ahh how education lead to the unlearning of physical reality!..
SWIM has come to realize however that all revelations are equally invalid as they are valid, all are actually true, and none are 'stand alone' true but only accurate when they are presented together, somehow.. anyone heard of the leaky bucket theory?.. well that, basically.

QFT

I concur, reality is whatever you make it out to be. In my mind, we all are the same being, but in different places and different times. I call this the "over-soul". Psychedelics seem to promote this believe. 'We all are one'.

[herostyle]

Whenever SWIM is under the influence of something and is driving with is 1-eyed friend, he always feels like while their driving that it's videogame driving. That might be because his 1 -eyed friend can't drive worth anything, but that's ok because it's all fun and games.

[Euthanatos93420]

Afriend of Swim's once related the 'Silver cord' to the cord of your console system controller. Where we are all units of a video game and our souls sit on the other side giving us input. We don't really know we're being controlled by the other side.

Dr. Deagle talks about how the Pituitary Gland is the physical connection in our brain to that 'silver cord'. Certain things can cause this gland to calcify (Chemicals, Atrophy, certain EMF wavelengths). When we get cut off from our silver cord our bodies just become part of the program operating mostly on input from the VG code itself. Or, reaction to other 'players'.

[Montgolfier]

I have a very similar idea that crops up now and again. It's that behind this thing we call 'life' is this highly advanced life force, that basically chooses to play this incredibly realistic virtual-reality simulation game called:

'Earth, consciousness splitter'

The aim of the game is to wire your brain up to this machine and it splits your personality into an infinite number of fragments. Each fragment feels like it is independent from the other fragments and consequently fights/loves/learns/competes/befriends the others.

The minute you enter the game you have completely forgotten that you are playing one, and it lasts for infinity, or at least until you are disconnected from the machine.

There are no rules as such, simply to try and understand the reason for being, and to try and piece the fragmented personality back together through evolution.
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[Potter]

If you would like to see what can go wrong with this line of thought, Ulillillia's mind game should do the trick. Of course most of the folks round here aren't basement dwelling autistics, but given the topic, nobody can't help but mention this child.

[Desertfox]

I recommend Supernatural: the Ancient teachers of mankinds past, in it Graham Hankcock compares the heiroglyphics of egypt with the egyptians real belief that its really the afterlife and those 2-d drawings were recreations of certain trips(most likely DMT induced, mimosa hostilis and syrian rue both grow prevelently in the area). Rick Strassman and coauthors build on this idea in Inner Paths to Outer Space. they believe humanity as a whole needs to come together and use its acquired knowledge to figure out how to reach the "next level". Even buddha said God was playful, but to what extent? maybe to the extent that our whole world is a game for god to wake up from his self-induced amnesia.

[Euthanatos93420]

Originally Posted by Potter

If you would like to see what can go wrong with this line of thought, Ulillillia's mind game should do the trick. Of course most of the folks round here aren't basement dwelling autistics, but given the topic, nobody can't help but mention this child.

Speak for yourself. Swim is very comfortable in his underground setting playing with his imagination. I don't really see how the 'mind game' is relevant to the metaphor of real life to a video game. Even so....what's wrong with the 'mind game' it's imagination x meditation! Swim does that shit all the time when he's bored.

Although Swim likes to use Pencil, Paper, & Dice and play it with some of his friends in his basement too...

[imaassspankme]

You believe this or you just had a weird thought like this when you were fucked? Whether on drugs or not, these thoughts aren't all that uncommon. It's when someone becomes convinced they're absolute truth that it's a problem. I prefer to look at these things as humorous, but random missfires of my imagination. Never to be taken seriously. Then again, I believe in pretty much nothing.

But I suppose you were interested in hearing similar thoughts. Sorry about that. I tend to miss the point of posts entirely. I've considered things like separate worlds or, I guess you could call them dimensions, where people were constantly feeling the way that a friend of mine feels when he smokes pot. I considered that to them, this "high" wouldn't be pleasurable at all. It would be the norm. Then I thought about what kind of drugs they would do because no matter how strange a universe, there has to be some kind of drug use. Maybe they take far more potent drugs that would turn our brains to mush, but gives them the high they want. But that seemed silly. Then I considered that maybe they took substances that took away their constant high. What if in some awful universe, people took drugs to escape being high?

But then I laughed it off and thought nothing of it again.

[Euthanatos93420]

Originally Posted by imaassspankme

But then I laughed it off and thought nothing of it again.

Until now. Watch Sliders much?

[engagenirvana]

Through an experiance my friend told me he had he said that "life" in itself is nothing more then the signals in your brain that make up your cognitive thinking and make you consious of many different feelings and senses. That life is in your head and everyone around you is a part of your imagination and not actually apart from your physical, mental, or spiritual self. Everyone is connected to each other and that the part of "life" that you are experiancing is only a minute part of the full life you are having because everyone else is you also. Basically he was saying that everyone is part of you and there is no seperate life around for all human life is connected on a circuit board and it is all one life but all life in one.

[Richard_smoker]

Euthanatos,

can you post some of this theory regarding the pituitary.

as far as known science is concerned the pituitary is a wildly complex organ, essentially the central command center for any and all primary hormones. that is, the pituitary is the organ responsible for releasing the initial signal hormones that arrive at their target organs (thyroid, testicles, ovaries, breasts any glands that release 'systemic' hormones really). So, the scientific understanding of the pituitary is that it's the link between the brain and the various glandular organs comprised of neuroendocrine tissues--a hybrid of tissue types (neurons and endocrine glands) that basically link neuronal signals coming out of the brain to our organs dispersed throughout the body, specifically regarding hormone level adjustment.

[Fat Cop]

Our thoughts are what make our reality. Not only mine, but all of ours. Our consciousness manifests what we believe reality to be into existence. I believe that someone can control this "video game." Infact we have been controlling it the entire time, but we just havent realized it yet.

All I know is when I knew my life was going to get bad. Guess what? It got fuckin bad. Then when I knew my life was going to get better, it got alot better. I realized that I was the one in control the entire time. Everything is one. Everything is God. I am everything. I am God.

Fat Cop added 378 Minutes and 35 Seconds later...

and perhaps you are referring to the pineal gland or is the pituitary gland said to also hold spiritual significance?

[Euthanatos93420]

Pineal, my bad. And no I can't post more because it's not my theory. It's just something someone else mentioned to me that I identified with in my own way.

[Blu_berrytoke]

Hahaha, This is usually what swims day feels like. Since Swim is almost always suffering from sleep deprivation, and is constantly high, daytime life seems like a videogame. Many times, swim almost loses feeling of his body, and feels like he's sitting in a recliner in his mind just playing out his day from in some kind of mental control booth.

Its pretty cool but sometimes, it makes it difficult for swim to communicate with others, since he feels so far away from them even when they're right in front of him. But that's the only downside to this type of world-view.