Experiences - No Effect from Kava

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim has used several brands of Kava powders, and followed all directions and suggestions, and experimented multiple times having no good effects.

Swim has used kava instant powder beverage and kava capsules, and parachuted powder.

All products stated 30% minimum kavalactones, and all products had the nasty kava taste and numbing effects.

The most swim ever used was around 10 grams of kava caps. Swim got very uncomfortable, feeling flush, nauseous, stomachache, etc. Kind of like a GABA overdose (1+ grams) , or a non-drowsy melatonin (50mg+)overdose.

Swim had absolutely zero positive effects from the kava every time. His anxiety/stress went up when experimenting. He also belched up kava for the next day.

Should swim just shut up and use fresh root, or does swim perhaps some sort of inability to process the kava in his body? Swim's friend reports anxiety relief from a low dose (less than 1gram) of kava caps. Swim is on no medication, and does have CYP2D6 deficiency. Swim loves benzos, and was hoping to find something close to the relief he gets from them with kava.

[Panthers007]

Bongo buys powdered Kava~Kava root. They don't talk about amounts of kavalactones on the label. Not sure what SWIM is buying. But if it's straight-up (maybe flavored for palatability) powdered root and no effects? It might not be SWIM's substance.

[Lobsang]

SWIM suspects that some people may not metabolize kava or respond to Kava the same as others. SWIM has tried many ways but gets nothing from it. Pehaps even some bad sensations and anxiety. Not sure why. But SWIM became frustrated with Kava as well.

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim is just going to assume that his body just does not process kava

Swim will experiment with fresh root one day when he is not broke and report findings.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim has gotten some weird and not always pleasant effects from kava kava aswell.Swim agrees that just maybe this stuff doesn't work the same for everyone and some people just won't enjoy it.

[jaked588]

SWIM tried kava a few times from powdered root and only got the numb mouth effects and nothing else. now it sits on the kitchen shelf

[Lobsang]

It would be interesting to try kava in the islands with the natives under the right set and setting and prepared the way they do and see if SWIMMERS would responnd in a more positive manner.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Originally Posted by Lobsang

It would be interesting to try kava in the islands with the natives under the right sat and setting and prepared the way they do and see iiiiiiiiiiiif SWIMMERS would responnd in a more positive manner.

That would be awesome!Unfortunately swim doesn't have the money for a Polynesian vacation.

[zornthro]

Kava has a short shelf life so if it's not being imported quickly enough it's going bad. Also definitely use real kava products, not the pills, as SWIM suspects that many pills bottled so long ago that people are getting aren't working.

Root containes 12%~15% kavalactones. So a tablespoon of kava, around 10 grams if swim remembors correctly (ISRC :P ), would have 1.2 to 1.5 grams kavalactones.

[Panthers007]

One of Bongo's cohorts was in Tonga recently. He spent quite awhile there - and drank the Kava~Kava with abandon in the evenings with the locals. Then he had Bongo's after returning. He reported no difference. And it was made from a reputable source with the USA.