# grams of mimosa bark for a single dmt dose?

[lexmark]

swim ins't allowed posting in the dmt section for some reason... he figures its a cheap trick to get more donations but he says w/e, he would like to know the minimum amount of mimosa hostilis bark he would need to be able to extract one or two doses of dmt from...

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[Desertfox]

Depends on its quality, if its powdered inner root bark, or if its whole root. Doses vary from 5g-15g for one person.

[Neosapien]

Originally Posted by Desertfox

Depends on its quality, if its powdered inner root bark, or if its whole root. Doses vary from 5g-15g for one person.

True.
My friend says that he wouldn't bother with extracting less than 50g at a time though. Not worth the hassle.

[Raz]

lexmark : As a "Newbie" you can post only in the Newbie Chemistry forum. The reason "This is to stop the overkill of topics by members without chemistry skills asking for step by step synths". Meth killed a lot of things.

You get access to the chemistry forums, when you reach Silver status (all it takes is a few good informative/helfpul posts). I haven't donated anything (I know, it sucks) and have access to them all, so your theory flops

Mimosa contains approximately 0.5 % (per weight) of DMT. So, in theory (!) 10 g of mimosa would give 50 mg of DMT. In reality, people extract from 100 g and up because it's easier and more practical.

[69Ron]

That 0.5% is just an average. Sometimes you get less that 0.1%, sometimes over 1%. It can vary a lot. It’s not as consistent in alkaloid content as the Mimosa sellers would like you to believe. SWIM has never had Mimosa bark that was of consistent quality. He's ordered it from many different places and never knows what to expect. SWIM has had times when he was amazed by the mount of DMT present with yields above 1%. One batch was so potent that SWIM could smoke the bark as is and it was enough for strong visual effects, so it probably had more than 2% DMT. Other times there’s almost no DMT at all. One time SWIM was really pissed because he purchased a whole bunch of Mimosa and it was bark that had less than 0.03% DMT! It was a lot of money down the drain! After that SWIM started looking for another DMT containing plant and found Hawaiian Psychotria viridis was much better.

SWIM has more consistent results from Hawaiian Psychotria viridis. Hawaiian Psychotria viridis is less toxic than Mimosa. Mimosa has a lot of tannins and other junk you don’t want to ingest. And Psychotria is easier to extract because you don't have such nasty emulsion problems to deal with. SWIM has seen Mimosa emulsions that took days to settle down! Psychotria does have chlorophyll, but that's insoluble in water, so if you initially extract with water, chlorophyll isn't much of a problem. But when extracting you have to always do at least 3 defats even if the initial extraction was with water. At the freebase stage SWIM uses pH 9.5 with Psychotria and gets really good yields, normally about 0.2-0.5%.

Most people find Psychotria more pleasant and less toxic feeling that Mimosa. Mimosa is usually stronger, but not always. All of these plants vary in their DMT content. SWIM has found Hawaiian Psychotria viridis to be the most consistent in DMT content at about 0.3% DMT. So far he's never had bunk Hawaiian Psychotria viridis yet. Considering all the money SWIM lost from all the bunk Mimosa out there, Hawaiian Psychotria viridis is a better deal in the long run, even though it’s usually more pricey.

Another bit of info for you extractors out there. Leaves in general are easier to extract than bark. Did you ever try to powder Mimosa to improve extraction yields? SWIM broke his old grinder because he once tried to powder some Mimosa bark that was too tuff for his grinder. This is not a problem with psychotria leaves.

The only time SWIM buys Mimosa now is when Hawaiian Psychotria viridis is out of stock.

[religious freedom]

Originally Posted by 69Ron

That 0.5% is just an average. Sometimes you get less that 0.1%, sometimes over 1%. It can vary a lot. It’s not as consistent in alkaloid content as the Mimosa sellers would like you to believe. SWIM has never had Mimosa bark that was of consistent quality. He's ordered it from many different places and never knows what to expect. SWIM has had times when he was amazed by the mount of DMT present with yields above 1%. One batch was so potent that SWIM could smoke the bark as is and it was enough for strong visual effects, so it probably had more than 2% DMT. Other times there’s almost no DMT at all. One time SWIM was really pissed because he purchased a whole bunch of Mimosa and it was bark that had less than 0.03% DMT! It was a lot of money down the drain! After that SWIM started looking for another DMT containing plant and found Hawaiian Psychotria viridis was much better.

SWIM has more consistent results from Hawaiian Psychotria viridis. Hawaiian Psychotria viridis is less toxic than Mimosa. Mimosa has a lot of tannins and other junk you don’t want to ingest. And Psychotria is easier to extract because you don't have such nasty emulsion problems to deal with. SWIM has seen Mimosa emulsions that took days to settle down! Psychotria does have chlorophyll, but that's insoluble in water, so if you initially extract with water, chlorophyll isn't much of a problem. But when extracting you have to always do at least 3 defats even if the initial extraction was with water. At the freebase stage SWIM uses pH 9.5 with Psychotria and gets really good yields, normally about 0.2-0.5%.

Most people find Psychotria more pleasant and less toxic feeling that Mimosa. Mimosa is usually stronger, but not always. All of these plants vary in their DMT content. SWIM has found Hawaiian Psychotria viridis to be the most consistent in DMT content at about 0.3% DMT. So far he's never had bunk Hawaiian Psychotria viridis yet. Considering all the money SWIM lost from all the bunk Mimosa out there, Hawaiian Psychotria viridis is a better deal in the long run, even though it’s usually more pricey.

Another bit of info for you extractors out there. Leaves in general are easier to extract than bark. Did you ever try to powder Mimosa to improve extraction yields? SWIM broke his old grinder because he once tried to powder some Mimosa bark that was too tuff for his grinder. This is not a problem with psychotria leaves.

The only time SWIM buys Mimosa now is when Hawaiian Psychotria viridis is out of stock.

SWIY could buy powdered mimosa online. SWIM is buying powdered purple pink mimosa from a trustworthy vendor. Will let everybody know how it goes if SWIM remembers... Plans to eat it as is because SWIM heard that mimosa naturally has MAOI's in it and is active orally by itself. But this is only at a higher dosage im sure. Not as money efficient as extracting and smoking but SWIM is not ready for that kind of intensity.

[Baltiland6.0]

Swiy should definitely use an MAOI such as harmine, harmaline, tetrahydroharmine, or a prescription such as Moclobemide when using DMT orally. Although it has been said that MHRB does have some MAOI activity I don't believe it's in suffiecient quantites to where a 10g dose would have effect without the help of an MAO inhibitor.

[religious freedom]

Originally Posted by Baltiland6.0

Swiy should definitely use an MAOI such as harmine, harmaline, tetrahydroharmine, or a prescription such as Moclobemide when using DMT orally. Although it has been said that MHRB does have some MAOI activity I don't believe it's in suffiecient quantites to where a 10g dose would have effect without the help of an MAO inhibitor.

well the reason i brought up mimosa by itself is i heard that it causes less stomach problems without the extra maoi. and im thinking even at a high dose it should hurt your stomach less. but i wouldnt know. SWIM will have to see. SWIM had bad stomach troubles with san pedro. puked 5 times on a small dose after it kicked in and once before because of the taste. So it sounds like SWIM's stomach is pretty weak. In that case SWIM will want whatever hurts the stomach least. if somebody else has a slight stomach ache, SWIM is having a puking marathon on the same dose.

[sgurrman]

When SWIM Religious Freedom mentions 'eat as is' about mimosa bark, does SWIY mean munch the bark literally? That might be the worst thing someone with a weak stomach could possibly do. I read very dodgy stuff about that, even someone ending up in the A and E at hospital cos of all the tanins. From what SWIM has read, cold water extraction is the only way to do it, like Jurema as used in S. America.

[religious freedom]

Originally Posted by sgurrman

When SWIM Religious Freedom mentions 'eat as is' about mimosa bark, does SWIY mean munch the bark literally? That might be the worst thing someone with a weak stomach could possibly do. I read very dodgy stuff about that, even someone ending up in the A and E at hospital cos of all the tanins. From what SWIM has read, cold water extraction is the only way to do it, like Jurema as used in S. America.

SWIM had planned to buy the powder. Sorry for the ignorance but could you explain how the extraction works and what tannis is if thats legal in this thread? i never know anymore, people are so picky about what goes in what thread.

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