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Old 08-03-2009, 22:34
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Re: LSH D-Lysergic acid α-hydroxyethylamide

ii've been thinking maybe the adding of acetaldehyde does something reactionally after ingestion, similar to methylphenidate with alcohol, forming ethylphenidate inside the body... just another maybepossibly,

very true about usually only people who've hadeffective experiences feeling motivated to post though.
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Re: LSH D-Lysergic acid α-hydroxyethylamide

SWIM says it definitely does something to it. While there is no absolute proof other than Hofmann calling it an adduct of LSA and acetaldehyde (which is proof enough for me), it definitely does something major to the effects of LSA.

SWIM has done this with purified LSA. Sometimes it doesn’t work. But when it does, the change in effect is like night and day. No one would ever think LSH (or whatever is being created here) is anything like LSA. It’s a stimulant. LSA is a sedative. “LSH” is far more LSD-like in effects.

You can argue that it’s not LSH that’s being created. That’s a valid argument, until proof is had one way or another, but when the process works you cannot say that this process doesn’t produce an effect that’s radically different from LSA. Many other people have been doing this for many years and have reported much success all over the internet.

SWIM has made many “LSH” teas using peppermint tea and pure LSA and passed it around to other people. When the reaction works properly, people are amazed by the effects, not just SWIM. They cannot believe it was made from LSA isolated from HBWR. If you don’t tell them what it is, people think it’s peppermint with LSD in it. It’s that close to the effects of LSD in low doses that it actually makes some people think they had LSD. SWIM has had people swear to SWIM that LSD was in the tea and that SWIM was lying! You can’t get that reaction from people by giving them pure LSA in water. LSA is so unlike LSD that no one is fooled by it. But at high doses even LSH becomes obviously different from LSD (lots of anxiety, vasoconstriction, etc.).

90% of the time, SWIM has success in making LSH from LSA. He’s found over the years that the best way to make it is to add LSA to freshly brewed peppermint tea (1-2 tablespoons of peppermint are used per cup). No alcohol is needed. Mix it. Then let it sit in the refrigerator overnight. The longer it sits, the more likely it is for the reaction to complete properly. After 24 hours, take it out and immediately put it into a glass with ice and drink it ice cold. It works nearly 90% of the time if done that way. But even then, sometimes it fails and you get that LSA sedative effect from it.

I don’t know why it fails sometimes, but it does periodically. Usually all that’s needed is to add more peppermint and let it sit again in the refrigerator for an additional 24 hours and the reaction will usually work.

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Re: LSH D-Lysergic acid α-hydroxyethylamide

Swims done quite a bit of research, and has found the most effective, and probably simplest way of changing LSA into LSH would be this:


1. brew fresh (dryed may work but make sure it is not too old) peppermint in a small cup of hot water for about 30 minutes
NOT boiling. The chemical that binds with LSA to form LSH will boil off

2. strain out the peppermint.

3. when water is close to room temperature add the desired amount of seeds to the brew (seeds should be ground to a powder in a coffee grinder or via other method), and put in fridge for 24+ hours
note: Although a cold water extraction will work outside of a fridge for LSA, this should always be done in a fridge. The chemical, and the LSA will not bind, and will seperate if not in the cold

4. strain out the crushed seeds. can be done with a coffee filter

5. Drink mixture.


Also, once complete you shouldn't keep the mixture out of the fridge for too long before consumption. Heat can cause them to seperate.

It may not always work. No one knows everything about LSH yet, and for some reason it just seems to fail on occasion for unknown reasons.

If it does fail you'll be left with a simple LSA extract. This can be consumed as normal LSA would.

Its very hard to tell if it worked or not until you consume it, but for some reason it seems to either work, or not work with no in between.

The main differences is that LSH is stimulating, while LSA is sedating.
and LSH will give a lot more hallucinations, and is very similiar to LSD.
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Re: LSH D-Lysergic acid α-hydroxyethylamide

SWIM would suggest converting the LSA to LSH in an ethanol solution that is a bit basic. Looking at the structures SWIM thinks this would help the reaction. Some other swimmer said he adds lemon juice but swim thinks going for a basic solution with ethanol (not pure you want some water in there too) will yield great results. and of course don't forget the peppermint oil! lol well actually most peppermint extracts are already in an ethanol solution! just add the extract to basic water solution to where it's an acceptable flavor and then add the LSA, voila, it's like magic.

SWIM doesn't have experimental evidence to back this up tho, this is strictly conjecture
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Re: LSH D-Lysergic acid α-hydroxyethylamide

Is it pretty unstable and will degrade quickly when out of the fridge?
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Old 10-11-2009, 22:21
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Re: LSH D-Lysergic acid α-hydroxyethylamide

SWIM dabbled with HBWR extracts in the past and found that the unpleasant vascoconstriction could be alleviated with alcohol - as in drinking a bottle of strong wine with the dose. He always assumed this was just due to the vascodillating properties of ethanol. The wine in question was usually %20 alcohol, greek desert wine. Make of this what you will.
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