Opinions - back to back rolling?

[inthistwilight876]

so SWIM took a pill the the other day, but experienced little to no effect as they were bad pills. However, the next day SWIM recieved blue dolphins, and has them verified as being the real deal. would SWIM get any effect off of these? ive heard back to back usage like this typically yields a signifigantly lesser effect, but since the first were very bad, would a second day of better pills change the outcome at all?

[RaverHippie]

SWIY could waste potentially great pills. Wait a month and let it be special. Definitely don't do back-to-back

[sknkv2]

Speaking from SWIM's personal experience, you'll probably still have a good roll, although the come down may be harsher. SWIM doesn't think you'll suffer too many adverse effects (more so than having not taken the first pills) because as you said, they weren't that great.

Still, the advice offered above is sound. Always better to wait a month. Honestly though, if you were to roll again, SWIM doubts that you would suffer too greatly from it (as long as you take care of yourself before, during and after your roll).

[Panthers007]

I will back-up that advice: The brain can only release so much serotonin. This is how MDMA does it's magic. And it takes time - a month or more being best - before another major release (roll) is physically possible. To do otherwise is, indeed, a waste of money and molecule.

[freshacejay]

SWIM Just did some back to back on friday, saturday. BAD IDEA. may i repead? BAAAAD F..ING IDEA!!! SWIM felt extremely wired and couldnt fall asleep untill 9 am (SWIM dropped at about 12 am) although he felt very tired and bad.

[Greenport]

SwiM recommends against doing them back to back. She once read that the risk of neuron damage (the 'e-tard' phenomenon) is greatly increased by doing them over a prolonged period of time, or taking larger than normal doses...

No, wait awhile then do it again later. SwiY will be glad that she did

[Pretty_Diamonds]

Waste of money and mdma.

[inthistwilight876]

SWIM ended up taking them, and while they definately were the best roll he's ever had, he kinda wishes he had waited. SWIM enjoyed himself very much so however.

[aBakes]

so what was the point of this thread...?

[inthistwilight876]

SWIM didnt know if it would be a horrible horrible comedown or a complete waste of a pill. just looking for outside input

[chinpokomaster]

SWIM's used 3 nights running before and didn't notice significant difference.

That's not scientific theory, btw, it's anecdotal evidence. I know that there probably wasn't as much serotonin in SWIM's brain the 2nd and 3rd times.

[katemodern]

Thats weird because if you say that, swim took some mdma back to back on a friday night and saturday night.
swim had a good time on both and nothing was wasted money md ect. i dont see the problem.
swim also didnt have a bad comedown either, swim never does.

[Panthers007]

I'd want a full description of what SWIM thinks is the desired effect of MDMA. The dosage actually taken. And, possibly, a neurological workup. Once a SWIM drops their serotonin from MDMA, it simply can't re-stock within a day. That's medical science & neuro-pharmacology. So there must be an answer regards what is happening here. Occam's Razor would suggest the simplest solution: SWIM is taking the drug as a stimulant rather than as an entactogenic. This would make this possible/feasible.

This would be an amphetamine high rather than what most would call a "roll." Regards the comedown, the "bad comedown" is, in my opinion and experience observing others, highly overrated and likely was a story planted by the DEA to dissuade people from trying this material in the first place.

So I would like the monkey to speak into a tape-deck and have it's words transcribed to the following question: What is a roll?

[chinpokomaster]

I know what you're saying Panthers. You are right, the excitement for SWIM on the second day wasn't as high but the buzz was still there, like you described. Things still seemed a lot more amazing than usual, though, enough for what SWIM would consider a "decent" effect. The problem being, how does SWIM quantify this? It's a lucid recollection of events nearly 2 years ago.

[th3tawav3]

Swim has backed to backed recently on blue buddhas (high mdma content). The first night's roll was after a several month break and felt like much to swims desire the much saught after blissful emotional connection to every1 and everything. This was experienced for 5 hours (1 pill taken orally, the 2nd snorted). It was as if everything fit, that euphoria that transcends cocaine and meth. The comedown was just a warm snuggle under covers that slowly melts into a light sleep.

Day 2 was at a kickback with a much more energetic feel to it. As expected roll #2 was a high much more like coke than a good roll. It was still nice, but there is just so much less spirituality with a second roll. Swim felt so much less open emotionally and occasionally felt that slight feeling of depression and comedown.

That is what back to back rolling will do for u. The magic might not be there due to exactly what panthers says. the body needs time to recover what its lost during the first roll.