Health - Should SWIM Try Psilocybin Mushrooms (Mushrooms and Depression)?

[xbarbiex]

i dont know if i should try them or not i really want to and all my friends are but i was depresssed last year and i heard ur not supposed to if ur feeling depressed in any way is that true ?

[User]

there might be a slight chance you would have a depressive state of mind while your high, and which could cause you a bad trip if you were thinking negitivly. Just have a good positive mindstate and remember to remember your high on drugs. Have a good enviroment, and have fun.

[regicide]

mushrooms are incredible. i'm a normally depressed person (i say it so casually!).. just make sure you're with ppl you feel 110% comfortable with, because while on shrooms you won't look at them the same way, you'll either trust them or you won't.





try writing on your hand a little reminder about being on drugs... i had a really, really bad trip for aboput 5 hours last month, and i thought i OD'd (did 7 gramms) and i honeslty believed i was going insane. keep in mind it's a drug, you AREN'T going insane

[super_skunk]

I have a frient that has some, but all I have done is smoked weed and hasish and drank, so ???

[Mortalis]

Do you feel like it is somthing you wanna explore? If so yes..if not no..research the affects and then decide for yourself..I dunno if we can really decide for you..dont succumb to peer pressure! heh..anyways, if you think it would be fun go for it..if its not your cup o tea..pass and buy some salvia!

[chronichick]

sure we can decide for you... DO EM!! hahaha....

ok fine.. decide if your ready and whatnot first .. haha... mush was the first thing i ever did besides weed, hash and drinking.. i was fine!.. actually i was better than fine! ...anyhoo just don't take a whole lot and you'll be good..

i'd say if you do decide only do a few g's... like 1 or 2.. you'll feel it then and know if your gonna wanna do it again.. then when you decide they amazing do more!

[OneDiaDem]

Make sure if it is your first time, that you read up on the effects, so you know what to expect, and arent surprised. Also make sure someone is there with you who is experienced, or sober. Remember, you have the ability to control the direction the mushroom takes you. Coin key frazes like: I am not dying. This will not kill me. This too shall pass. I am fine.


Sometimes, its very easy to flow into the negative side of the trip. When you feel yourself slipping there, focus on an object, and tell yourself this is ok. It wont last long. It will feel like it, lol. Its really a wonderful experience.

[chronichick]

ohh yeah that reminds me of something...


i heard that you could actually write a phrase like that on your hand to keep you calm if you start to slip (things like OneDiaDem mentioned...)

[globalloon]

personally, i have had the most magical experiences on magic shrooms, even to the point of epipheny. I overcame a deep depression after a single intense trip on my own, the experience acted as a trigger for a new way of looking at the world. Not that I would recommend treating depression with hallucenogens...as if, it depends on the person

one friend always starts off by laughing hysterically, but within an hours cries about nothing until she falls asleep. after 15 years of using mushrooms, i find that iusually fall asleep about one hour into the trip, if the dose is reasonably high. but it's a blissful sleep, so no probs there.

i particularly enjoy the most minute dose (10-15 heads of liberty cap), finding that records I haven't listened to for years are great, and the pictures on my wall take on a new importance, while feeling totally tranquil

meditaion and chi-kung exercises help if you are feeling a bit stressed or overwhelmed.

overall, if the trip becomes too much, you only have to wait a few hours until "reality" becomes tangible again, unlike most other trips. if it's your first time, make sure you are with friends that care about you, and have some experience themselves.

simple, innit?

[Blindmelon]

Next season SWIM was thinking of picking some Liberty Caps that grow in abundance in his area. He was just wondering if its a good idea to take this kind of thing with an unrelenting (and rather unpredictable) depresion problem? he's not taking any meds although a friend recomended Kava.

SWIM has never taken a halucinagenic (and I suspect he has a bit of a tolerance to them as he's smoked insane amounts of weed and never seen anything).

[Metomni]

First off, it is unwise to use the visuals one gets with marijuana as a predictor of tolerance to psychedelics. That coupled with the depression leads my penguin to believe that SWIY should simply start with a very low dose.

It's kind of a personal issue, if SWIY believes they can handle it then go for it, but if they are too worried about the possible consequences to enjoy their trip then maybe it's an unwise decision to trip at this point in their life.

Also, SWIM has lots of experience with Cubensis, but never with Liberty Caps, so maybe someone with experience with that specific type of mushroom can be of more help.

[Blindmelon]

Heh! Depression with 2 ss's

Thanks for the quick reply . I think I might try going for a lower dose and build up to. At least then I have more of an indication of how it will be and I will worry less.

Not to mention SWIM will know if the mushrooms he pick will not hospitalise him

[Coconut]

SWIM used to suffer from debilitating depression so he knows where SWIY is coming from. Start with a low dose and ask whoever SWIY feels safest and most comfortable around to be SWIY's sitter. Depression is a serious pain in the tits but if you feel at least temporarily comfortable for the duration of the trip and don't fear what psilocybin might show you, SWIY's experience should be positive.

[juanathan]

psilocybin can be a temporary or long-term CURE for depression. it all has to do with your confidence going into it. don't do too much, don't do it at the wrong time, and don't do it with the wrong people. but you will find that there isn't a right or a wrong way to do it, it just has to do with YOUR confidence level and how you THINK you will handle it. do it with someone you love! or two people you love. and if things go south, remind yourself that you can handle whatever happens.

[Blindmelon]

Heh, I am possibly the least self-confident person in the world . And my only experience with a halucigenic was horrible but I think if I start small and work up to it I can manage it .

Thanks for the help guys!

[runtime89]

swim's experiences may be helpful. for the last half of my life i have suffered from mind-blowing depression, which i won't get into. a few years ago swim, in desperation, started taking 10 mg of prozac every morning, which soon went to 20. swim's depression seemed masked by a meaningless euphoria for the first few months, then the only effect that remained was a heightened confidence in social situations. swim has tried to quit prozac several times with horrendous withdrawal. he has been reducing his dose steadily over the past several months.

swim has recently been experimenting with mushrooms, and the antidepressant effect is unparalleled by any therapy or any pill. the first few times swim tripped around different mixes of friends and would experience some uncomfortable self-consciousness. he decided to trip alone recently, and without the slight social anxiety he had a wonderful experience, and thought of life and love and the universe and all that and came out of it a much happier person. yesterday swim tripped in a remote part of the prairie with two good friends, and we all had life-changing experiences and felt a close bond with eachother and with the earth. tripping in nature was fantastic as there was so much beauty to distract swim from any bad thoughts.

swim advises keeping a lot of weed handy, as it's a great remedy for the stomach problems and muscle tension that come with mushrooms. start with very low doses and work your way up if you enjoy the experience. make sure there are lots of distractions, and you should certainly trip in nature if possible (not alone though). never trip with anyone with a bad attitude, as bad vibes will drag your trip down a lot. many people advise not to trip alone, but i think as long as you're in a good mood when you take the mushrooms, and you're in a safe place where no one will bother you, you can have a great time. swim would also advise keeping lots of water and bread-type food around to settle your stomach. and know that there's a fair chance you'll puke, be prepared for it, otherwise puking while tripping can be a really upsetting experience.

swim definitely recommends swiy try the divine fungus, just be careful!