Pharmacology - Does hydromorphone show up on a standard panel 8 drug test?

[y0ssarianlives]

Hi,

SWIM had a dream in which we lived in a fascist nation which required of a friend two drug tests a week. SWIM's friend in this dream knows that hydromorphone is a semi synthetic and does not break down into morphine and codeine as metabolites but this friend in SWIMS dream was still worried that somehow it might show up on a panel 8. This is for a treatment program and will most likely be sent to a lab..

Does anyone know enough about the procedures of drug testing enough to answer SWIMS' dreams' friend?

y0ssarianlives added 1391 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

Well these are the metabolites of hyrdomorphone detectable in the urine.

Hydromorphone-3-glucuronide, dihydromorphine, dihydroisomorphine, dihydromorphine-3-glucuronide and dihydroisomorphine-3-glucuronide


SWIM knows drug tests are flagged as positive for morphine and codeine; do you guys think that any of these metabolites will trigger a positive UA?

[cra$h]

to answer your question simply: yes. opiates are opiates.
why? all opiates from hydrocodone to heroin act on the same receptors, and morphine is in there just as well. synthetic or not, it still counts since the primary drug still comes from the opium plant.

[Spare Chaynge]

fentanyl dosent show up but its a whole different ball game

[y0ssarianlives]

As far as I know, they first do an immunessay test which hydromorphone would NOT set off as it's a synthetic and does not DIRECTLY metabolize into codeine, morphine, or 6-MAM, the major heroin metabolite. It would only show up under a GS/MC or whatever.

And yeah, fent is based of thebaine and isn't even on the radar so that might have to be SWIMS new drug of choice for the meantime.

y0ssarianlives added 27 Minutes and 3 Seconds later...

In fact, SWIM has discovered that these are the opiate metabolites that will trigger a positive for the overarching term "opiates" on a drug test via immunoassay testing.

Codeine-N-Oxide • Morphine-3-glucuronide • Morphine-6-glucuronide • Monoacetylmorphine • Morphine-N-Oxide • Naltrexol • Norcodeine • Normorphine


Sooo... if any swimmer have cause to be concerned about a drug test, check to see if your opioid/opiate metabolizes into this list. Otherwise, unless they specifically test for it, like hydrocodone for instance, or..... methadone, they have to have a SPECIFIC test for any substance that doesn't metabolize into that list.

But still, remember its still a gamble.

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fantastic information! thank you very much for posting this!

[cra$h]

swim's pretty positive oxy/hydrocodone would show up, as it's a form of codeine, which is still codiene. the same for the hydromorphone. it's a form of morphine, so it's gonna trip

[y0ssarianlives]

I know for a fact after my counciller at my methadone clinic showed me what they test for; they have a seperate test for oxy as it doesnt test positive for opiates. So yeh, synthetics will NOT trigger an opiate drug test unless they specifically test for it.