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Old 04-06-2008, 00:57
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why swim's yield is very low???

swim used :
10g E
11g I
4g Rp
materials are chemical grade.

yield was 4g !!!

if swim use:
10g E
15g I
7g Rp
may occur bad thing?(over reaction of ephedrine???)
???
method is reflux with plastic balloon.

please answer fast swim need do it tommorow.
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Re: why swim's yield is very low???

sways says to swiy hes using the wrong ratio 10/E 12/I 8/R
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Re: why swim's yield is very low???

what do u use freebase or hcl pseud
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Re: why swim's yield is very low???

psedu from pills
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Re: why swim's yield is very low???

yes but do you use freebase or hcl pseud. do you evaporate pseud out of organic or water solvent?
if you use freebase sometimes you have an overreaction or fire when reaction starts...there are dark brown smoke inside the Reactionvessel when burn / overreacting!
That kills the pseud and you got low yield. if it so you make the freebase pseudf to hcl pseud and keep the reaction starting low in icebath! swim had this problem when he started to cook...
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Re: why swim's yield is very low???

apperently thats not too bad if it was ur first try.


Maybe just do the steps more carfully and minimize losses?
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Post Re: why swim's yield is very low???

yeah that was the first tryings. but every time swim starts a new dream swim make things better that he failed at his last dream. every new dream got some better yield/quality ! but i have A question about acid/base workup!
how can swim make things better at the a/b workup? Must the solvents be hot when meth is transfering from aqueus to organic layer? swim heard that i have the dh20 must be cold or frozen when i doing the last step(salting out the meth with Hcl) ?swim thinks that the kind of small things makes meth better !?
how much time swim should be take for a/b steps

starting with meth cleaned from rp and filtered all shit out-

-Raise the ph level over 12.8 with small additions of NaoH Solution 20%
-Meth falls out to the upper organic layer(toluene) ca 20 min
I do this two times with an amount of 150 ml NP/ca.30g expected Meth
-next i seperate and wash the organic layer with ph 10+ dh20 till the wash is clear
-then swim take half frozen dh20 (like crushed ice) put it in and wait till its thawed and both layers will be cold.
-then swim drops the ph to 6,8 with 36% chemically pure Hcl
-then seperate and evaporate the aqueus layer - finish.

But i think there are some fine things like that with icewater, who make meth better- if somewhere knows one please tell me!
How much time should swim spent for the steps below?
Is there a better NonPolar solvent as Toluene for a/b
How much amount of dh20 should swim add after Reaction?
Swim takes ca 400ml last time. then swim boils off 100 ml .
After boiling the Meth/dh20 is clear like water with that oily look. (all dreamers know what i mean). Is that to much dh20 swims adds??


Thanks for answers, iam hungry need input =)! and if there are a dreamer that dreams the same kind of dream like swim( reflux with condenser and ballon ) mail me PM for exchanging experiences or a nice smalltalk (iam no newbie who ask bullshit and talk stupid crab)... swim is done his own experiences when swims dreaming, and swim even do fuckin mistakes at the workups- but every mistake gives more experience at the next dream... maybe i can help YOU too? Mail me i will answer 1000%... hope there are somewhere =)

till then...peace from germany- nizzmo
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