I AM A SALVIA divinorum NEWB!!!

[doomfiend]

Yesterday, i smoked about "sage" salvia in a joint and threw a bong,
and i even tried eating eat. my question is what are the ways of
properly using salvia to its fullest effect as well as what type of
experience to expect?

[sands of time]

Well if you have not felt the effect yet, try smoking some 5X salvia in a water bong. Pack a bowl, smoke down a few hits, HOLD AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, and sit back and brace yourself. You can smoke in a regular bowl to, but the smoke can be very harsh and dry. The experience will be out of this world if you break through, and it could take the shape of anything. Many people experience a sense of shifting gravity, strange shapes and unearthly concepts. Your trip could be anything.

[antigenesis]

Just a tip: You will never get anything from a salvia joint or from
eating, no matter how much you use. You have to get it really
hot, torch lighter style. Oh and I wouldn't bother mixing it with
weed, if you were wondering.

[sands of time]

Extract can be smoked in a bowl with a normal lighter, but a torch lighter is more effective. If you use a torch lighter, you will definately want to use a bong to cool the smoke down.

[Inferno13]

I had a quick question in terms of how hard salvia actually hits you. Is it like a slow onset somewhat like Psilocybin or more like balls to the wall smack you in your face (or a happy medium maybe?). Just curious because I'm contemplating experimenting with it but I'm not sure yet. Also, I've noticed these 5x and 20x things when describing Salvia's, I'm assumung, potency. If you guys wouldn't mind clearing this up for me I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

[VoodooFeather]

how dangerous is salvia when at 20X? that seems pretty intense

[sands of time]

The onset is less then a minute. Basicly, you notice somethings different, then slip into the altered state of mind in a matter of seconds. The X in say 5X means that the material has been extracted so it is 5 times stronger than regular salvia. Salvia has not been shown to be dangerous, but at the 20X level it is definately intense. You would only need a small amount in a bowl to achieve a level 4 experience. The nice thing about strong salvia extract is that you need less.

[VoodooFeather]

maybe im misunderstanding, but this seems to be legal in the united states?


seems like it looks like a house plant, or at least can be passed off as such without arousing any suspicion

[Stingray_313]

Ok, theres a lot of questions here so ill try to clear some of it up...



Salvia IS </span>legal. Currently,
bills are trying to be passed to rate this as a class 1 hallucinagin.
Chances are, this will pass in the next year or so, so i advise you to
buy all you can while its still legal, because im sure sources will get
difficult after its illegalization, especially considering its lack of
popularity.



The extract is measured in leaves. So 10X has the potency of 10 normal
leaves. 20X has the potency of 20 normal leaves. Im guessing you can
figure it out from there. One hit of 20X is enough to knock someone off
their feet and give them a strong trip, while you might need 1 or 2
hits of 5x or 10x.



As for smoking it in a joint... waste of salvia. The heat from the
paper wouldent burn any of the chemicals that make you trip, therefor
just leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth. Even with extract this
is useless. For bowl smoking, you need a GOOD HOT lighter to do this.
This will not work with normal leaf, but it will however with extracts
10X and up. For a bong/water pipe, normal leaf and extracts work best.
Just use a HOT lighter and take a HUGE HIT, then hold for as long as
you can (30+ seconds), release, then take another (if your up to it...
one hit above 10X may be enough...) and then sit back, and prepare to
depart from earth and enter salvia land.



For the Dangers of Salvia... there are very very few. The only major
one is if you are weakminded or have a history of bad psycology, you
should steer clear of this. It is a bit extreme of a trip and may cause
mental problems. If you have a good sitter and are mentally stable,
this shouldent be much of a factor though.



Smoking weed with Salvia.... i have had many experiences with this, and
i must say it is better. Dont mix the salvia in with the weed, or vice
versa, its better to smoke weed before you start smoking salvia. That
way, you can be calmer when you hit the salvia. It helps you stay in a
relaxed mind and helps prevent the risk of bad trips and painful
gravity distortions. Also, the come down is a smooth transition rather
then a rude awakening. Definately a good thing to do.



And finally, Eating it will provide no highness, as the chemicals must
enter the body QUICKLY in a very concentrated form. THe slow release of
digestion and absorbtion will give you no effects. Dont waste your time
with it. Just rig up a bong instead. Youll thank yourself.



Hope I helped. Ill answer any other questions you have. Peace.

[san.pedro]

saliva is nuts....my friends and i grow salvia plants and we made our own extract....it was 50x 0_0 man....we tripped so fukin hard...my firend peed his pants one of the times..

[VoodooFeather]

wow, so do you know about the process as far as creatinve the X's?


is it simple to increase potency, SWIM has obtained some, but has no idea what the hell X it is.

[QGdoxl]

Ok here is the deal with the "X" as I understand it.



lets say you take 100g or salvia leaf

1.set aside 10g of dried leaf

2.use acetone to extract the active ingredent "Salvinorin A" in the
remaining 90g of leaf (Salvinorin A is soluble in acetone, and
acetone evaporates quickly more on that later)

3. break up your dried 10g and spread them out in the bottom of a glass
pot/jar making sure to cover the bottom with the dried leaf

4.evaporate your "Salvinorin A" rich acetone to an amount that will
just cover the dried leaf (NOTE be in a very ventelated room with
definatly no spark flame or source of ignition. the evaporating
acetone are VERY FLAMABLE)

5.Pour the smount to just cover the dry leaf, over the leaf and let the
acetone evaporate compleatly (it is poisionous somake sure it is all
dried off)



now you have 10g of 10X extract salvia

hope this clears things upa bit.



please pardon spelling and grammer it is late and I amtired