Setting - Trip to Amsterdam and First Time Mushroom Use

[Bassking]

Hi everyone,

Just a little back ground info:

Swim has been smoking weed for about 2 years and they effects it has on him are usually huge (He doesn't have any idea about dosage he just smokes until he feels he should stop). Smoking week usually affects swim quite well, it's still not really normal to him but he can enjoy it in a social situation. Swim has had some experiences with cannabis where things seem to move, making faces and objects out of shapes quite vividly. He sometimes can feel ill with no sugar intake.

The dilemma:

Swim and some friends are planning a trip to Amsterdam - he's not too bothered about the cannabis he think he could handle it over there. How ever swim hears magic mushrooms are legal and readily available - He am considering trying them.

The questions:

Would it be advised that swim try mushrooms, and what types/dosage would be advisable?

What types of standard effects can he expect? (Examples with weed are anxiety and slight paranoia which he gets almost every time).

Is the orer of being stoned with shrooms similar to that of cannabis but stronger or completely different?

Could some one relate it to another mind changing experience swim might have had?

Thanks for your help peeps

[Heretic.Ape.]

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[kakakaka]

Swim would advise you to take them as they are quite magical. Try taking something like truffles or cubensis first, normaly they are quite light and socialable. They are sold fresh and a full box is roughly a full trip, for first time its prob advisable to only take half a box.

The first time swim took shrooms was in the 'dam and he took half a tub of truffles. He was in the hotel room with his mate who had a major comedown from some bad pills. Swim sat and although the visuals werent massive, they certainly were noticable. Nothing too much tho, more of a head fuck than anything else.

When buying from a headshop, they sometimes have little menu things that tell you what each mushroom does etc. Some are really visual, some are a head fuck etc. So you can pick the one that you may like the most

[Nature Boy]

Cannabis, as a mild psychedelic, is capable of unnerving some people. It is a psychoactive drug, altering one's conscious is what it does by definition. Whether this unnerving effect results in anxiety or euphoria, is purely in the eye of the beholder. The same goes for a stronger psychedelic like psilocybin i.e. magic mushrooms. Psilocybin is a stronger psychedelic so therefore this change in consciousness is more noticeable and is resultant in more unpredictable responses, certainly at a full dose.

Without gradually testing the waters in the world of psychedelics, few people would completely avoid any testing elements in their first psychedelic trip. The feeling of slowing time, a roller-coaster of emotions across the wide spectrum that exists within the human mind. It is an introspective experience that will confront you with some aspects of yourself that you may not necessarily be comfortable with. Sometimes it can confront an individual with creative and beautiful facets of their imagination they didn't know existed.

I would recommend a first-time user of mushrooms to focus on set and setting primarily. Ensure the trip takes place in an environment that is generally pleasing where difficulties can be addressed without any sense of antagonism. Mushrooms are physically safe. That is very important to remember. As other psychedelics go, the mushroom trip is short and compact. If it feels heavy, gather composure and sit it through.

[AetherPoison]

maybe this is just swim's opinion, but if swiy experience paranoia regularly on just weed, mushrooms probably arent for swiy, they can be pretty intense and if swiy are a person that worries a lot, thats no good on mush

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Good point

[Sippin40oz]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

I would recommend a first-time user of mushrooms to focus on set and setting primarily. Ensure the trip takes place in an environment that is generally pleasing where difficulties can be addressed without any sense of antagonism. Mushrooms are physically safe. That is very important to remember. As other psychedelics go, the mushroom trip is short and compact. If it feels heavy, gather composure and sit it through.

I reallly agree with nature boy here setting and environment are very important when trying shrooms for the first time. Iam not sure if trying them in a strange country for your first time is really a good idea. Although lots of fun shrooms can really freak you out if your not comfortable with ur surroundings. Personally i would recommend trying them at home first then maybe you could have more fun with them when ur away! The last thing you wanna do is ruin your holiday by having a bad trip and freaking out!!!

[Panthers007]

Not while harboring an attitude that invites anxiety - not good at all. Though SWIM will be in Holland where being arrested is a very remote possibility, unlike in jolly 'ol England. I'd suggest SWIM keep an open mind and make no decisions until SWIM gets settled into the wide-open (mostly) Dutch culture.

[Heretic.Ape.]

A buddy of monkey's tried shrooms whilst vacationing in Amsterdam. Though he had done psychedelics such as acid previously, he still became quite overwhelmed in the strange environment and ended up spending the majority of the trip hiding in his room waiting to come down a bit.

[podge]

Originally Posted by Heretic.Ape.

A buddy of monkey's tried shrooms whilst vacationing in Amsterdam. Though he had done psychedelics such as acid previously, he still became quite overwhelmed in the strange environment and ended up spending the majority of the trip hiding in his room waiting to come down a bit.

Most people underestimate how much stronger the trip gets with cannabis ( especially dutch cannabis ) thrown into the mix, taking shrooms on holiday in Amsterdam and leaving the hotel room is not a good idea in swims opinion. Shrooms are shorter lasting but a lot more "chaotic" than acid in swims opinion anyway.

[aerozeppelin123]

SWIM and his friends all tried mushrooms for the first time while on holiday in Amsterdam last year, none of them had ever tried any kind of psychedelic before (except ecstasy and weed if you would include them) and they were all completely fine despite some people having intense trips. They tripped in Vondelpark (the main central park in Amsterdam), finding a nice quiet spot by a pond on a nice sunny day. SWIM would recommend this rather than staying in your hotel room, he said it was nice being in an open environment rather than being confined in a room, especially as the hostel they were staying at did not allow any drugs other than weed and alcohol. Just be careful with dose and ask for advice at the shop and you should be fine.

[cra$h]

if one has plenty of experience with drugs like weed, you should be fine. it's all about preparation and the attitude you have when injested. if you know you're not going to worry, you wont.