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Old 02-06-2008, 20:46
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REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

Hello again, dear science rats.


SWiM (not me for sure) would like to gather any information regarding to possible recreational use of REASEC (Diphenoxylate) which is an opioid agonist. He is interested in especially:

1) possibility of recreational use

2) the (recreational) dose

3) May the combination with 1-2 beers be harmful? (However alc. potentiates itss effect.)


SWiM is thankful for any answers.

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EDIT2: 1 tab contains -> 2.5 mg of Diphenoxylate) and 0.025mg of Atropin.

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Old 02-06-2008, 22:05
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Re: REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

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EDIT2: 1 tab contains -> 2.5 mg of Diphenoxylate) and 0.025mg of Atropin.
I think you mean atropine, which is a very nasty substance to be dealing with, think high heart rate and nausea. Not sure what doses would produce the nasty side effects, but I'm sure some one can answer that. Diphenoxylate seems to be similar to pethidine so it should have abuse potential, however as atropine can be fatal, wait untill someone else gives you safe dosage levels
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Old 02-06-2008, 22:18
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Re: REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

Yep it is similiar to pethidine, and yes SWIM meant Atropine, sorry.

SWIM has done a little research meanwhile and has found out that 50mg of Diphenoxylate can get "extremely pleasurable opiate-like buzz", however, it also includes 0.5mg of Atropine, but it certainly isn't a fatal dose. Though, the lab rat has been already given the dose (47.5mg D / 0.475mg A).

SWIM is thankful for your reply.

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Not sure what doses would produce the nasty side effects, but I'm sure some one can answer that.
The ability of Atropine crossing the blood-brain barrier causes the side effects.

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Re: REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

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The ability of Atropine crossing the blood-brain barrier causes the side effects.
I said how big the dose was not how it causeed the effects

A trip report would certianly be very useful in this instance
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Re: REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

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I said how big the dose was not how it causeed the effects

A trip report would certianly be very useful in this instance
Ah SWIM is sorry again, misread the thing. The lab rat has been administred the substance at cca 22:00, the effects are said to kick in about T + 02 hours.


The rat will post the feedback for sure (if he survies).

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The report:
The lab rat has taken 19 pills of REASEC (Diphenoxylate). (cca50mg) and 0.5mg Atropin
0 Tolerance to opoids.

Two hours after ingestion, the rat felt something, but only a very mild opiate feeling. So the rat was given 2 pints of bear, and it went from mild to a lil. more mild, however nothing what would worth the Atropine danger. The ammount of Atropine was 0.5g -> rat didn't feel any effect of it.

Comclusion SWIM can say, diphenoxylate is just not usable for recreational purposes.

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Re: REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

If each tablet contained .5mg atropine, and SWIM took 19 tablets, SWIM has taken 9.5mg of atropine. This is a toxic level! Cease & desist at once! 10mg of atropine is enough to cause profound toxic effects in the common SWIM. even 4.75mg is enough to cause toxic effects such as blurred vision, flushed skin, cotton-mouth to beat all, and other nasties. 10mg may cause hallucinations of the deleriant variety - seeing things that aren't there which SWIM believes truly are.

Diphenoxylate can/will cause a narcotic high in large amounts. But with that level of atropine it is plainly not worth it. Save 'em for their intended use - a nasty case of the runs.
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Re: REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

Ah damn, SWIM made mistake again wtf, sorry.

It contains 0.025mg of Atropine ofc. = 0.475mg per 19 tablets.

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Re: REASEC (Diphenoxylate) recreational potential

Apparently there already is a thread about this: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21280 SWIM has access to scientific filters which he uses to extract codeine... Maybe he could try to do a CWE with Diphenoxylate and collect the powder the remains in the filter. Another use would be taking the pills normally and keeping the dosage of atropine low, and combining it with codeine and they should potentiate each other.
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