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Old 02-06-2008, 10:53
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How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

Hi guys I haven't been around for some time and I just red about codeine extraction from caffeine/codeine solution and I'm so happy. Now I found some activated charcoal but bottle is 250 mg. How much should I use for 200-300mg codeine?
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

SWIM doesn't think you got the right kind...
SWIM thinks you need the activated charcoal in a filter form, not powdered...
Sorry if SWIM is not making any sence but he's on 350mg of codeine right now...
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

yes ıts good ıf ıts f.e. ın a brıck form or sımılar, for fılterıng. not sure though, swım hasnt tested ıt hımself hes happy he never needed to do so, just water was always enough
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

What swim did was crush active charcoal to fine powder, put it in filter, wash it real good to make sure only water is going out then filter the cwe mixture trough it

results are awesome. You get perfectly clear liquid, bitter as hell, with minimal dose of caffeine, and it still packs a punch
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

can SWIM do the same thing for ketamine? swim has ket cut with caffeine and wants to get rid of the caffeine.. so can swim do the above but just dissolve the ket in water first, then run through the charcoal filter?
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

The charcoal will trap/adsorb the codeine molecules jeust as well as the caffine. The Xanthine base structure is smaller than the phenanthrenebase structure of the codeine. Charcoal is also given in the case of overdose, think about it
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

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The charcoal will trap/adsorb the codeine molecules jeust as well as the caffine. The Xanthine base structure is smaller than the phenanthrenebase structure of the codeine. Charcoal is also given in the case of overdose, think about it
I concur 100% with Davestate on this - in Accident & Emergency Depts of NHS Hospitals activated charcoal solutions are given routinely for a wide range of oral overdoses ( including Codeine) if those substances have been taken within an hour of presenting at the hospital .
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

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The charcoal will trap/adsorb the codeine molecules jeust as well as the caffine. The Xanthine base structure is smaller than the phenanthrenebase structure of the codeine. Charcoal is also given in the case of overdose, think about it
wrong. the charcoal wont absorve morphine or codeine..
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7.This 'crude' morphine base, commonly known by the Chinese term p'i-tzu throughout Southeast Asia, may be further purified by dissolving it in hydrochloric acid, adding activated charcoal, re-heating and re-filtering. The solution is filtered several more times, and the morphine (morphine hydrochloride) is then dried in the sun.
if you want to read more, read this....: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27246, my post start on #11, read from there.. you can read this too: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...t=54089&page=3 i stumbled on that method while researching for morphine.. Some tests here: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...t=54089&page=2

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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

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wrong. the charcoal wont absorve morphine or codeine.. if you want to read more, read this....
It doesn't absorb, it adsorbs. And it's a first line choice in oral overdose, when administered shortly after ingestion reduces blood concentrations, proven in writing.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=q...um=1&ct=result

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3...?dopt=Abstract
I can explain the mechanics of exactly how it works, if you want quantum level proof
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Re: How much activated charcoal for caffeine removal

Well, I don't know why but swim never got any effects after filtering through activated charcoal...
Nice info though
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