Injecting - Oxycodone 15mg IR (How to inject properly?)

[runfrom MURDER]

SWIM has found a dealer for these bad boys:

http://www.drugs.com/imprints/eth-445-8236.html

The guy said they didn't have Aspirin in them, but SWIM didn't believe him. Well SWIM looked the pill up and sure enough, it says nothing about any APAP in them. Just plain ol' 15mg of IMMEDIATE RELEASE Oxycodone.

SWIM is excited because this dealer seems fairly stable, and because of the possibilities with the pills. SWIM might even do a CWE on one and slam it...

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Well, SWIM just learned you can't smoke one like a Roxi. Ewww.

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How would SWIM IV one of these? He's done it before with other pills, but wants to be sure.

CWE? And then IV the remaining (filtered) liquid?

Or simply smash it up, put on spoon, add water, then put a cotton ball down and suck through with needle or whatever?

[RaverHippie]

this thread may help with the IV question

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28148

It's always good to search the forum prior to questions, there's a lot of information here.

[runfrom MURDER]

SWIM has read every thread for IVing pills, trust me. He's read all over for the past few days. They are of no help to SWIM's earlier question, at the bottom of the first post;

"How would SWIM IV one of these? He's done it before with other pills, but wants to be sure.

CWE? And then IV the remaining (filtered) liquid?"

And SWIM just heard from a friend (who's very smart with opiates) that those Oxycodone 15mg IRs are a generic form of a Roxicodone.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by runfrom MURDER

"How would SWIM IV one of these? He's done it before with other pills, but wants to be sure.

CWE? And then IV the remaining (filtered) liquid?"

And SWIM just heard from a friend (who's very smart with opiates) that those Oxycodone 15mg IRs are a generic form of a Roxicodone.

Thats right it is a generic form of roxicodone, there are 3-4 manufacturers of generic Immediate release oxycodone without apap. One would assume that the IVing of these is the same as roxicodone but im not positive.

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Thats right it is a generic form of roxicodone, there are 3-4 manufacturers of generic Immediate release oxycodone without apap. One would assume that the IVing of these is the same as roxicodone but im not positive.

Yeah, SWIM had never heard of generic Roxicodone. Gotta love pharmaceuticals, they always keep surprising.

SWIM would like someone who is positive about IVing one like a Roxi.

A simple CWE and shoot up the filtered liquid?

[OhCasey]

What would you be extracting with the cold water? There is no apap. I dont know if a cold water extract would get anything out of an immediate release oxy without apap.

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by OhCasey

What would you be extracting with the cold water? There is no apap. I dont know if a cold water extract would get anything out of an immediate release oxy without apap.

The binders / fillers? Right?

If not, then can SWIM just do the other method; crush / add water / soak up with cotton ball / suck with needle and shoot? It leaves binders and parts of the pill on the cotton ball though, so that's why SWIM doesn't like this method.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by runfrom MURDER

The binders / fillers? Right?

If not, then can SWIM just do the other method; crush / add water / soak up with cotton ball / suck with needle and shoot? It leaves binders and parts of the pill on the cotton ball though, so that's why SWIM doesn't like this method.

I dont think the binders or fillers can be filtered through a CWE but i may be wrong. The procedure should be the same as Oxycontin except healthier since there is no time release.

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by OhCasey

I dont think the binders or fillers can be filtered through a CWE but i may be wrong. The procedure should be the same as Oxycontin except healthier since there is no time release.

How should SWIM IV one then? Crush and add water? Or what?

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SWIM keeps on having trouble with pulling enough liquid for a shot out from the cigarette filter. Any clue why?

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SWIM has tried shooting up at least 5 times now, even with morphine. Yet SWIM has never had any rush, nor real high?!

SWIM thinks it's cause he can't get enough liquid from his filter for a good shot. Can anyone help SWIM?

[long duck dong]

Sounds like maybe swiys filter is too big?

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by long duck dong

Sounds like maybe swiys filter is too big?

SWIM tried with 1/2 of a cigarette filter, then with 1/8 as well.

SWIM had hopes that the second would be good enough, but nope, still couldn't get enough liquid for a shot. Thus another [mostly] wasted pill.

SWIM uses a 29 gauge needle, so that shouldn't be a problem...

[RaverHippie]

is IV the only method of administration SWIY is willing to undergo? injecting the binders and inactives never seemed that appealing at all to SWIM.

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

is IV the only method of administration SWIY is willing to undergo? injecting the binders and inactives never seemed that appealing at all to SWIM.

SWIM has snorted / orally used for 3 years now, and wants the experience of IVing one.

SWIM has always feared the needle, but SWIM now has a safe set of them, and is ready to try it. SWIM knows the health risks involved, and has done lots of research on the topic.

SWIM just can't get it working, hah.

[RaverHippie]

Understood, best of luck then! With this preparation I see no need for the filter. Since everything is dissolved in the water I can't see the filter pulling anything out of the water. Methinks it's just getting in the way. It's like trying to pass saltwater from the ocean through a cigarette butt hoping that it turns into fresh water coming out, atleast that's my line of thought. Just be sure to use clean water and keep a clean environment.

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

Understood, best of luck then! With this preparation I see no need for the filter. Since everything is dissolved in the water I can't see the filter pulling anything out of the water. Methinks it's just getting in the way. It's like trying to pass saltwater from the ocean through a cigarette butt hoping that it turns into fresh water coming out, atleast that's my line of thought. Just be sure to use clean water and keep a clean environment.

Well, the crushed powder (Oxy) doesn't dissolve.

SWIM thinks it should, but he's read at least 15+ different ways of shooting Oxy, and he's just confused as hell now.

Here is SWIM's technique currently:

SWIM crushes the Oxy, puts it in a spoon, adds about 50cc's or so of water and then stirs it around. The light green crushed parts of the Oxy still stay, floating around, and nothing really dissolves. SWIM then puts the filter in the middle of this crushed Oxy and water, which leaves the him with the spoon having crushed and wet Oxy pill on it and the "wet" filter. SWIM then puts the needle in the filter and tries to get any solution, over and over. That's SWIM's problem; he can never get much solution back! It's there, somewhere in the filter, but SWIM just can't get it back in the needle.

Is SWIM doing something wrong?

[RaverHippie]

hmm SWIY could wet the filter first so that nothing can be absorbed by it, that may help.

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

hmm SWIY could wet the filter first so that nothing can be absorbed by it, that may help.

Why would SWIM wet the filter? Wouldn't that mean just plain water being sucked up into the needle instead?

Were SWIM's steps correct? Would SWIY try it differently?

SWIM crushes the Oxy, puts it in a spoon, adds about 50cc's or so of water and then stirs it around. The light green crushed parts of the Oxy still stay, floating around, and nothing really dissolves. SWIM then puts the filter in the middle of this crushed Oxy and water, which leaves the him with the spoon having crushed and wet Oxy pill on it and the "wet" filter. SWIM then puts the needle in the filter and tries to get any solution, over and over. That's SWIM's problem; he can never get much solution back! It's there, somewhere in the filter, but SWIM just can't get it back in the needle.

The problem isn't that SWIM hasn't researched, it's that there's like 20 different methods on this forum alone, and SWIM doesn't know which one will work for his Oxycodone 15mg IR.

[blackdb1]

Swim had the same problem as swiy saw in swims thread. If swiy is dissolving 1-2 pills then...
crush finely and add powder to bottle cap or similar small cup like container (spoons don't work well with roxis?)

Now add 2.5-3cc's of water and stir well

Drop about 1/3 of a cigg filter in, make sure its held together tightly as if it's loose it will suck up lots of air first

Now draw it up in the barrel--- if theres air then hold upside down (point up) and flick the air to the top. Then slowly push air out of the barrel

Swim has had sooo much trouble figuring out how to do these right as he's used to IR oxy capsules. Which were MUCH easier!!! Tonight swim got it figured out and got a good shot along with some orally and snorted powder. Swim is satisfied with the result!!!
Like swim said in his thread on this subject, hes going on subs so wanted 1 last high. the sub dr. talked to swim today and swims going to get on this Friday!!!! Doc also said it's no prob to write swim a script out for xanax as swim was rx'ed alprazolam about 3 weeks back!!!

Swim wishes swiy the best and safest experience possible!!!

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by blackdb1

Swim had the same problem as swiy saw in swims thread. If swiy is dissolving 1-2 pills then...
crush finely and add powder to bottle cap or similar small cup like container (spoons don't work well with roxis?)

Now add 2.5-3cc's of water and stir well

Drop about 1/3 of a cigg filter in, make sure its held together tightly as if it's loose it will suck up lots of air first

Now draw it up in the barrel--- if theres air then hold upside down (point up) and flick the air to the top. Then slowly push air out of the barrel

Swim has had sooo much trouble figuring out how to do these right as he's used to IR oxy capsules. Which were MUCH easier!!! Tonight swim got it figured out and got a good shot along with some orally and snorted powder. Swim is satisfied with the result!!!
Like swim said in his thread on this subject, hes going on subs so wanted 1 last high. the sub dr. talked to swim today and swims going to get on this Friday!!!! Doc also said it's no prob to write swim a script out for xanax as swim was rx'ed alprazolam about 3 weeks back!!!

Swim wishes swiy the best and safest experience possible!!!

SWIM has tried this way, and never could get much solution back into the syringe. SWIM thinks the filter is too big?

Also, SWIY said 2.5 - 3cc of water? A syringe is usually 50 or 100cc, SWIM's is 30cc. Why would SWIM add so little water, or was that a typo?

[blackdb1]

Ya swim meant 3ml's of water. Swiy is going to be left with ALOT of junk in the spoon or whatever swiy is drawing it up out of. the solution is going to be clear so and it will LOOK like nothing got into the barrel but it's in there. Swim takes the shot and then adds another 3ml's of water to the left over filtered residue, stirs it up and sniffs it or swallows it out of the spoon.

This should work!!! Swiy should get positive results, but IV oxy is NOT what swim always thought it would be!!! He's assuming it's because of the high bioavailability and fast absorption orally? Swim assumes morphine, hydromorphone, and oxymorphone would be better pharmaceutical opoids to inject as they have low bioavailability with other ROA's???

Swiy should be safe and swim wishes swiy the best of luck with your IV experience!!!

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by blackdb1

Ya swim meant 3ml's of water. Swiy is going to be left with ALOT of junk in the spoon or whatever swiy is drawing it up out of. the solution is going to be clear so and it will LOOK like nothing got into the barrel but it's in there. Swim takes the shot and then adds another 3ml's of water to the left over filtered residue, stirs it up and sniffs it or swallows it out of the spoon.

This should work!!! Swiy should get positive results, but IV oxy is NOT what swim always thought it would be!!! He's assuming it's because of the high bioavailability and fast absorption orally? Swim assumes morphine, hydromorphone, and oxymorphone would be better pharmaceutical opoids to inject as they have low bioavailability with other ROA's???

Swiy should be safe and swim wishes swiy the best of luck with your IV experience!!!

What is 3ml in syringe units? 70cc's?

Is SWIY saying there isn't really a rush? That's why SWIM wants to IV, for the rush. What was SWIY's dosage for SWIY's IV?

[RaverHippie]

1ml = 1cc for water anyways

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

1ml = 1cc for water anyways

3cc of water for a whole pill?

Nothing even dissolves with the 40-60cc that SWIM already uses when he tries. How is 3cc supposed to work?!

[Jonro]

Originally Posted by runfrom MURDER

The light green crushed parts of the Oxy still stay, floating around, and nothing really dissolves.

I think thats your problem right there, if some/nothing is dissolving into the liquid then your not getting everything out of the pill. Try adding alittle heat to maybe help dissolve it or do your mix then add more water and filter again.

[runfrom MURDER]

Originally Posted by Jonro

I think thats your problem right there, if some/nothing is dissolving into the liquid then your not getting everything out of the pill. Try adding alittle heat to maybe help dissolve it or do your mix then add more water and filter again.

How long should SWIM heat it?

Also, to a boil?