USA - Drugs in Prison

[Ididnotinhale]

Howdy, I didn't know if I should put this in Law or some for all, so sorry if its in the wrong place.

Swim was just wondering how drugs our brought into prison, but more so how they are paid for. How can a heroin user afford to bring in or make enough money to buy heroin?

thanks

[x cynic x]

Originally Posted by Ididnotinhale

Swim was just wondering how drugs our brought into drugs

No whey, how could comething like that happen? Drugs are smuggled into prisons but my friend doesn't think they our brought into other drugs.

[Ididnotinhale]

Sorry I messed up on spelling

[yaba]

Condom/balloon then put in arse. Payed for with phone card/tobacco is the most common.

[fnord]

I heard the drugs in prison are kinda shitty...

Some drugs are brought in by guards/nurses/employees eager to make money others are snuck in using the method mentioned before. some drugs are ¨cheaked¨ which is when you push the pill up inside your gum/or under your tounge when pretending to swallow it in the med line.

[beentheredonethatagain]

A state correctional officer was arrested for allegedly bringing drugs, cash and a cell phone into the state prison in Smyrna, police reported today.


Rawle A. London, 46 of Dover, was charged with possession with the intent to deliver marijuana, possession with the intent to deliver cocaine and promoting prison contraband.

London was released after posting $15,000 secured bail.

State police spokesman Cpl. Jeff Whitmarsh said about 11:30 a.m. Tuesday when London reported for work at the Delaware Correctional Center he was spotted carrying a cell phone into work against prison policy.

The violation was reported to a supervisor, who confronted London and checked other items in his possession.

Whitmarsh said London was found with $345 in cash, 26 grams of suspected marijuana and 1.5 grams of cocaine.

An investigation determined that London, a 3-year correctional veteran, intended to distribute the contraband, including the cell phone, in the prison.

No other correctional employees have been implicated in the scheme, Whitmarsh said.

Following his arrest, London was placed on paid administrative leave pending further investigation.

London joined the department in May 2005 and has served as a correctional officer/food services specialist.

According to state payroll records, London’s current salary is $34,680.

He earned $4,858 in overtime in 2006, the last year for which such records are available.

www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll

[Mr. Giraffe]

You get your drugs from the prison officers, who make a cool multiple of the street prices. It's a great scam for everybody.

In Ireland, our powerful prisoners had widescreen TVs and in one case, a live budgie, which we were supposed to believe were snuck in past the guards. And if you'll believe that, I've a slightly soiled drug war to sell you.

[aerozeppelin123]

Where would prisoners get all the money to pay for them though if they're so expensive, I would have thought people have barely any money in prison

[cosmicruler]

Originally Posted by aerozeppelin123

Where would prisoners get all the money to pay for them though if they're so expensive, I would have thought people have barely any money in prison

stand overs,drugmoney,prostitution money etc etc...prisons house huge numbers of gang members and high profile career criminals that have nothing better to do all day than think of elaborate ways of getting in contraband etc.
if swiy were a screw' and some gang members came up to you at work with photos of your family etc and then said either do what we say or ya family gets it,what would most people do??i no what swicrwould do and thats whatever these animals say(although swicr would want some cash or substance as well).or criminals will just offer large amounts of cash to screws to bring shit in 4 em!!!guards earn crappy wages and have quite shit jobs they prob wouldnt take much convincing and if they do family photos prob secure the dealquite easily.
In swims country there was recently a case where a senior gang member was jailed for his part in a multimillion dollar meth ring.
he was inside 3 months when the screws turned over his cell and found a cellphone,they checked allthe calls made etc and found this gang member had been organising drug deals with the outside and had been making average $3000 a week in the timehed been inside....not bad aye!!!!

[YellowViolet]

Originally Posted by cosmicruler

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he was inside 3 months when the screws turned over his cell and found a cellphone,they checked allthe calls made etc and found this gang member had been organising drug deals with the outside and had been making average $3000 a week in the timehed been inside....not bad aye!!!!

It doesn't seem like they should be able to get a cell phone signal inside prison walls! That's just crazy. Can't they jam the signal so cell phones don't work?

[RaverHippie]

prisoners usually have jobs that earn a very meager wage from what I understand. Also bartering with good and services would probably be common as well. This is just speculation, not speaking from experience.

[Swift Serenity]

another question, how do they do the drugs while in prison? doesnt the guards notice anything?

[losd]

Everything I know about this comes from watching some of those prison documentary TV shows (shown on the Discovery channel in USA I believe). They describe some of the ways drugs get into prisons and are used there. Through the mail is one way in. Prisoner's friends hide very small amounts of drugs in the mail they send to the prison. Family members also smuggle it in during visits. Plus guards bringing it in, there are a lot of ways it happens. They just do the drugs while the guards aren't watching, since they can't watch every prisoner every minute. Prisoners also brew their own boooze from juice and stuff. Anyway, those shows are pretty interesting if you get a chance to watch.

[Swift Serenity]

i watched some on prison fighting but not drugs.. lol thats pretty funny how easy it is to get in the prison..

[ISeeShadowPeople]

I understand that this topic was created several months ago but I stumbled across it with the search option which I assume is something many others do also. So with that being said, I was just released from prison five days ago so I have a few answers for you.

As for the money issue, how people can afford drugs. You wouldn't believe how much money people actually have in prison. I mean sure, there are plenty of people who have nothing and live off state checks, but there are millionaires in federal prisons. Possibly some in state prisons.

Also, you would be surprised at the insane amount of money that people receive from family members. I've watched plenty of people get a one hundred or two hundred dollar money order every week. A friend of myn received three hundred dollars every two weeks. That's six hundred dollars a month. Seven thousand two hundred dollars a year.

I also knew a fourty six year old man who sold his house, cars, ext. while he was out on bond because he knew he was about to be sentenced anywhere from fifteen to twenty years. He was fourty at the time, so you know, what the fuck right? I never did ask him how much time he did receive. But I did see the man's paper work with my won eyes, he had something like one hundred and twenty something thousand dollars. I imagine many people in that type of situation did the same thing.

You've also got to remember, some of these people are professional criminals and they have something to show for it. Cell phones are flooding prisons all across the United States allowing people to continue making money as the carry on their crimes of choice the same way they would on the street.

As for the price of drugs, it differs. I've seen one gram of crack go for XXX and I've also seen a ounce sold for eight times that because the guy wanted to get rid of it as fast. It all depends.

In certain major institutions you can find drugs easier there then you can on the streets. The cocaine and crack ( I never saw any meth ) is something that only a select few are able to purchase because most of the time the prices are ridiculous and the payment is usually handled by sending money to another person's account. You can't just hand over two hundred dollars worth of cigarettes to a person because certain officers pay close attention to the amount of canteen inmates possess.

But as far as pills and weed, it's really not that bad. I was paying xxx dollars worth of commissary for a decent sized joint. Three for xxx dollars. You can get Xanaxs for a very small amount. Hydrocodones, percs, you name it. Pills are easy to find because they're very easy to suitcase. ( Shove up your ass. ) I had a friend who got weekly visits and brought back fifthy xanaxs every fucking time. His girlfriend had a prescription on the street. He made a fucking killing.

Anyways...

There is a boatload of information for anyone who is interested. I figured I would get it all out before everything slipped from my mind. All of this is based off time I spent in Virginia state prisons but I imagine it's the same all over America.

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[jon-q]

Might be a good idea to re-read the rules on Self-incrimination and price discussion Iseeshadowpeople, use terms like "Coke is 25% more".

But you are right prisons are full of drug addicts and drug dealers and it's not just money that has a value inside.
Q

[vinothprabu]

hey not only in some parts i have either heard that in indian prisons also drugs are handled for the culprits... drugs are an offence!! so they get offended into prison and again in prison drugs are used... how stupid is this.. totally screwed hmmmmm...
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Vin

[Norman14]

I think that prisoners should be able to do soft drugs that are non addictive and which promote peace.
My main suggestion is cannabbis, because it reduces violent behavior. During the cold war Soviet soldiers somehow supplied cannabbis to american soldiers to demoralize their fighting and killing desire.
What would a bunch of prisoners do if they were allowed controled amounts of cannabbis.
For instance: In the lesser security prisons it can be implemented for them to control their violent behavior and discriminating views.
This would put them in a state where they would be willing to make some supervised community work without much risk of a violent incident. Think about it. A prisoner gets food, clothing, varied activity, peaceful feelings that come from the cannabbis, which would eventually modify their base behavior from a dog eat dog survival of the fittest mentality into a peaceful cooperation with society mentality; which allows them to find prison more tolerable, less degrading, love and understanding of the system, and a chance to do some good for society be it doing works or crafts or environmental cleanup, as long as they get their cannabbis they would conform.

This of course can only happen if cannabbis is legal in the first place, which would greatly reduce the population of prisons. High percentage of prisoners serving time for simple possesion charges would no longer be in prison.
Many black market crimes are commited because cannabbis is ilegal and someone will do whatever they can if they need food to survive or if they dare make a profit by going against the biggest drug dealer of all , which is nature , which gives free drugs and free distribution.

[Zoidberg]

You'd have to be careful that it didn't get into the wrong hands, though. Of course, cannabis is great for some people, but you wouldn't want someone with psychotic tendancies having a stash of it in their cell.

[x cynic x]

it can't be too easy for a psycho to get away with that, would not their behavior appeal as abnormally irradic and spontaneous to the "watchful" guards and fellow prisoners?
I do agree that it would reduce/nullify violent behavior, thus rendering it medicinally used in that sense.

[snapper]

Prisoners are in prison for a reason, many of them for violent and antisocial behavior. Cannabis will not change a person's fundamental personality and could make a lot of these people worse.
SWIM thinks that, barring nonviolent drug offences, people in jail should be there to pay a debt to society for raping, beating, killing, stealing, deceiving and otherwise victimizing others. They should not be put in an especially comfortable setting. SWIM spent some time locked up when young (for drugs, of course) and understands how nasty prison is, but that doesn't take away from its fundamental purpose which is a punishment.
Drugs were easy to get when SWIM was incarcerated - another method not mentioned is to soak drugs into paper and fabric. A corner of a hand towel can harbor a huge amount of LSD, and even a decent amount of meth, benzos,or other soluble powders effective at a low dose. Sure LSD in prison is not the best time, but people buy it....

[x cynic x]

Originally Posted by snapper

Prisoners are in prison for a reason, many of them for violent and antisocial behavior. Cannabis will not change a person's fundamental personality and could make a lot of these people worse.

yes, this is true, it probably would be adverse to successful punishment/rehabilitation. My Aunt Jemima just thought from her own perspective, and THC is a privilege that is calming to her, but those being punished shouldn't have many privileges.

Originally Posted by snapper

SWIM thinks that, barring nonviolent drug offences, people in jail should be there to pay a debt to society for raping, beating, killing, stealing, deceiving and otherwise victimizing others. They should not be put in an especially comfortable setting. SWIM spent some time locked up when young (for drugs, of course) and understands how nasty prison is, but that doesn't take away from its fundamental purpose which is a punishment.
Drugs were easy to get when SWIM was incarcerated - another method not mentioned is to soak drugs into paper and fabric. A corner of a hand towel can harbor a huge amount of LSD, and even a decent amount of meth, benzos,or other soluble powders effective at a low dose. Sure LSD in prison is not the best time, but people buy it....

Although with tons of thousands of repeated offenders, my Aunt doesn't see the efficacy in the "punishing/rehab." purpose(ONLY purpose) of prison.

[tod080]

In reply to the person who heard that prison drugs aren't any good....swim did 12+ years, stayed good and high for the first 9 or 10, and only got bad stuff 2 times, and that was made right both times. He said you could always tell when the H hit the yard, because someone would OD within the first few hours.

[cob_ob]

Originally Posted by snapper

Prisoners are in prison for a reason, many of them for violent and antisocial behavior. Cannabis will not change a person's fundamental personality and could make a lot of these people worse.
SWIM thinks that, barring nonviolent drug offences, people in jail should be there to pay a debt to society for raping, beating, killing, stealing, deceiving and otherwise victimizing others. They should not be put in an especially comfortable setting. SWIM spent some time locked up when young (for drugs, of course) and understands how nasty prison is, but that doesn't take away from its fundamental purpose which is a punishment.
Drugs were easy to get when SWIM was incarcerated - another method not mentioned is to soak drugs into paper and fabric. A corner of a hand towel can harbor a huge amount of LSD, and even a decent amount of meth, benzos,or other soluble powders effective at a low dose. Sure LSD in prison is not the best time, but people buy it....

Lets hope you don,t get caught with drugs and end up in prison,they,re not all violent,some of them just don,t have the choice,be violent or else get walked all over.
prison can be a life changing experience!!!

[seven7seven]

Drug's are most commonly smuggled through visitation. CO's can also be also be bought with cash (also from visitation), sex, and/or intimidation (people in prison are really good at this). Drug's can be smuggled in with something as simple as throwing them over the fence. A water soluble subtance like meth is easily absorbed into letters, and is just as easily pulled out (pretty hard to detect). The list is endless, and the only limitations are imagination. Money is ciggarettes (store items) for small purchases. For larger quantities it is usually done street-to-street (that is someone SWIY knows meets up with the dealers friend on the outside and pays him, then the dealer is notified by his friend and SWIY gets his shit). SWIM has seen many people die over these matters. Didn't pay, or OD'ed (lower tolerance and surprisingly high purity). The prison dope is usually top shit (less to smuggle). Dope is readily availeable in prison, just usually expensive. Gang conecctions also brings in free dope (payoffs and political stuff) so OD is very real in those cituations as the drugs are in abundance!!!