Purity - Meth in Extacy pills ?

[desperado]

Do you get meth in Extacy pills ?

[podge]

Anything at all could be in pill. Ecstacy is meant to refer to MDMA, but pills usually arent pure and lots dont even contain MDMA. Buy a test kit to find out what might be in swiys pills.

[ihavequestions]

meth if often found in pills along with MDMA or MDMA like chemicals. but yes meth from what swim knows it a very common cut in pills.

a test kit would definetly be a good idea.

[radiometer]

It is very common in the US. Out of 1593 tablets which have been tested by ectasydata.org, 165 contained methamphetamine. That is more than 10%.

List of tablets tested by Ecstasydata containing methamphetamine

[HonestlyChilling]

Swim came across a batch of pills around 1 1/2 years ago in which contained high amounts of crystal meth and high amounts of MDMA. Such contents offered for a very intense long lasting high, a very good pill to swims standards.

[Richi]

In and around swims area it is very common to get methamphetamine in pills sold as ecstasy, 50% or more in most cases. Please be careful.

[Samadhi]

Originally Posted by HonestlyChilling

Swim came across a batch of pills around 1 1/2 years ago in which contained high amounts of crystal meth and high amounts of MDMA. Such contents offered for a very intense long lasting high, a very good pill to swims standards.

MDMA is already a stimulant... why combine it with another stimulant... of all the things to do. this is why people go to the hospital. because these pills are given to people expecting to have loved-up and great feelings, but end up gnawing their teeth and overheating because of overstimulation.

[freshacejay]

SWIM hates meth in pills. In his eyes it draws attention from the light and lovely mdma euphoria and makes him unrestful (is that a word lol). especially the comedown on meth pills sucks. SWIM got himselft a tester (EZ Test Extreme) very advisable.
Cheers

[bhmoab1]

Originally Posted by samadhi123

MDMA is already a stimulant... why combine it with another stimulant... of all the things to do. this is why people go to the hospital. because these pills are given to people expecting to have loved-up and great feelings, but end up gnawing their teeth and overheating because of overstimulation.

Does swiy really get a stimulating effect from pure mdma? Swim finds it to be a very relaxing high. Sure methamphetamine is the ma in mdma but on its own it doesnt really produce stimulation in the sense that meth does. maybe it does increase heart rate if thats what you mean.

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by bhmoab1

Does swiy really get a stimulating effect from pure mdma? Swim finds it to be a very relaxing high. Sure methamphetamine is the ma in mdma but on its own it doesnt really produce stimulation in the sense that meth does. maybe it does increase heart rate if thats what you mean.

EFFECTS (abridged for relevance):

rapid, involuntary eye jiggling (nystagmus)

moderately increased heart rate and blood pressure (increases with dose)

restlessness, nervousness, shivering

mild to extreme jaw clenching (trisma), tongue and cheek chewing, and teeth grinding (bruxia)

increase in body temperature, hyperthermia, dehydration


Sure sounds like a stimulant to me...

[bhmoab1]

^^swim knows the listed effects, but most of those arent really present with pure mdma. Swim says mdma is one of the most relaxing highs around. If it is stimulating it probably has something else in it.

swim doesnt get many of those side effects from mdma. maybe jaw clenching but lots of things do that. restlesness, swim is anything but restless on mdma.

Not trying to argue just wondering if you get stimulating effects form MDMA alone? Not from pills.

[sweetsweetmary]

SWIM has gotten these nasty things, Comedown is real obvious, almost like insanity is setting in, SWIM says e comedown isn't that bad at all, hardly noticeable for swim, SWIM will know.

[radiometer]

swim knows the listed effects, but most of those arent really present with pure mdma

These effects were determined in scientific toxicology studies, not cobbled together from ravers' user reports:

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi...ournalCode=add
http://www.google.com/search?client=...ng+wilson+mdma

All are common side effects of stimulants. Many of the side effects of MDMA are dose-dependent. SWIY may feel relaxed on MDMA but I virtually guarantee you that his blood pressure and heart rate are slightly elevated, whether or not he is conscious of it.

MDMA's stimulant effects are fairly benign when compared with other common drugs such as amphetamine. However, they are indeed present, and therefore suggest caution with regards to polydrug combinations.

[fiveleggedrat]

In swim's cat's area, pills with MDMA are super rare. Most pills are straight amphetamines, or combinations of various stimulants.

It's sad when most people associate "X" with tweaking.

[EndlessKnight]

Originally Posted by radiometer

It is very common in the US. Out of 1593 tablets which have been tested by ectasydata.org, 165 contained methamphetamine. That is more than 10%.

List of tablets tested by Ecstasydata containing methamphetamine

What's scary is of the 1593 pills tested only 890 actually contained MDMA

EndlessKnight added 5 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by fiveleggedrat

In swim's cat's area, pills with MDMA are super rare. Most pills are straight amphetamines, or combinations of various stimulants.

It's sad when most people associate "X" with tweaking.

This is exactly why my friend stop doing E, he never knew what he was getting.

[bhmoab1]

Originally Posted by radiometer

These effects were determined in scientific toxicology studies, not cobbled together from ravers' user reports:

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi...ournalCode=add
http://www.google.com/search?client=...ng+wilson+mdma

All are common side effects of stimulants. Many of the side effects of MDMA are dose-dependent. SWIY may feel relaxed on MDMA but I virtually guarantee you that his blood pressure and heart rate are slightly elevated, whether or not he is conscious of it.

MDMA's stimulant effects are fairly benign when compared with other common drugs such as amphetamine. However, they are indeed present, and therefore suggest caution with regards to polydrug combinations.

understood the classification is a stimulant and the MA is for methamphetamine. swim is aware that his heart rate increases. It also does on k and many others which arent classified stimulants(most rc's,lsd) I was just asking if you feel stimulated on pure MDMA. You asked why someone would add stimulants. Swim wouldnt and wouldnt want them in his pills. Swim prefers straight MDMA. The answer why stims are added though is because most ravers would be dissapointed with taking MDMA only and going clubbing. It doesnt give you that push. Swim would not prefer that but that is why it is added.

[Troa]

Originally Posted by bhmoab1

^^swim knows the listed effects, but most of those arent really present with pure mdma. Swim says mdma is one of the most relaxing highs around. If it is stimulating it probably has something else in it.

swim doesnt get many of those side effects from mdma. maybe jaw clenching but lots of things do that. restlesness, swim is anything but restless on mdma.

Not trying to argue just wondering if you get stimulating effects form MDMA alone? Not from pills.

swim has taken mulitple doses of 100% pure mda as well as mdma. he says" the mdma is a bit speedy in comparison to the mda which is a very mellow, very happy high. very good for laser shows or chilling with friends. the mdma on the other hand is still a more energetic high, jaw clenching is a bit more predominate, and the comedown is a little harsher.

e is usually cut with caffine, amphetamines, or other stimulants to boost the duration and intensity of the high. its also there to get you hooked. meth is a very addicting drug. and around me there are a lot of ravers as young as 13 and theyre all already addicted to it. there is a LOT of meth that goes around as e around here. sometimes pills can contain no mda/mdma at all. usually if you have trouble sleeping after youve comedown, thats usually meth. swim takes mollie all the time with no trouble sleeping but when swim used to take e he always had problems

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good summery of what swim thinks

[radiometer]

Originally Posted by bhmoab1

I was just asking if you feel stimulated on pure MDMA. You asked why someone would add stimulants.

I asked no such thing, I think you confused my post with soeone else's regarding that point. Perhaps I also fused your point with a different post. I merely wanted to respond to your claim that MDMA is not a stimulant, a position which I disagree with to a certain extent, and which you seem to have reversed somewhat.

My buddy Eddie has been blessed for several years with the luck to be able to use basically pure, crystalline material for his experiments. In his experience, dose, set, and setting play a tremendous role in what sort of experience one has.

I think that there's plenty of energy in MDMA is one wants it there. After all, thousands and thousands of people, in dance scenes in the 80's and early 90's from Dallas to NYC to London, spent countless hours dancing furiously on unadulterated MDMA just about every night of the week...

[bhmoab1]

your right sorry i did confuse your post with another.

swim cant speak for others and just doesnt get energy out of pure MDMA. swim has had plenty and is content to just sit and listen to music with his wife or sit outside. Doesnt really have much push to do anything. Even sex distracts from the experience in his opinion. One his wife may disagree with.

Different strokes though.

swim agrees that its classified as a stimulant. his agreement isnt needed though as its a fact lol.

Just seems these days some people would be dissapointed with pure mdma if it doesnt have some speed to it since thats the norm now.

Swim will stick to crystal MDMA and leave the speedy stuff for others.

sorry for the confusion

[aBakes]

It's very common to get this in ecstasy pills. SWIY should get a testing kit or trust who SWIY is buying from

[Chipp]

Very interesting stuff, here. In the US, at least, MDMA isn't classified (we're talking drug-category here) as a stimulant. They call it a hallucinogen. However, it does share some of the same affects as a stimulant: blown pupils, increased pulse, blood pressure, and body temperature. It does not cause nystagmus by itself.

[RedBaron]

Oh yes, meth is very common in ecstasy pills. Pure MDMA cannot be compressed into pill form so they need things such as amphetamines and methamphetamines to create the tab.This is so they dont have to use all the good stuff and it saves them money. Not only meth has been noted to be in xtc but a wide range of other substances. From Lsd, dxm and even things like rat poison so make sure you know what you're getting. Invest in a safe testing kit of you're sketch or uncertain about what you're going to be doing.

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False information. Please provide sources for this

[nateup]

Dude you are a fucking idiot. You don't need meth or some drug to press mdma into pill. There are plenty of pills out there that only contain mdma... as far as psychoactives. Of course the pill is held together with inactive "binders and fillers".

It is unfortunate that pills often contain meth and no mdma at all. Meth is a disgusting drug that is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like mdma in effect. Sure, you get some similar physical side effects, but the primary mental action is nothing at all like meth and conversely IS very relaxing.

I think it is true that you are feeling so good that it just distracts you from your slightly elevated vitals, but even the similar physical effects dont even compare in intensity.

Swim has very many times fallen asleep on pure mdma, with no other drugs involved.

The meth bombs are also why swim quit rolling and hasnt for several years... just isnt worth the risk of a disgusting meth experience that will leave you feeling like a piece of trash for days. Such an evil vile and disgusting drug!

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You could have corrected the previous poster without resorting to personal abuse

[tyranny4u]

Pure MDMA cannot be compressed into pill form so they need things such as amphetamines and methamphetamines to create the tab

tt guesses you read some more information about drugs of any kind or at
least those you are talking about. a pills pressing machine might work
with a press capacity of tons, so you could press pills from nearly
everything. and indeed there have been pills pressed that contained
MDMA only, without any fillers. but these times seem to be over now...