Storing - Diluting liquid LSD with scotch whisky

[Silentscream]

Swim had a bottle of 250 mic per drop acid (or so he was told by his supplier - it certainly felt like over 200 mics).

One day, swim was informed that the acid could be diluted to around 150-180 mic per drop by adding some spirit or de-ionised water.
Having no de-ionised water around, swim added a ml or two of scotch whiskey.

Swim now finds that the lsd doesnt seem to work. Swims friend tried two drops, and felt a little strange, but no visuals. Swim is worried that the scotch may have caused the LSD to break down, but cannot find any information on this?

Can any more experienced swimmers offer any advice?

[dr_haldol]

The LSD itself was okay? Same bottle, I guess? Just to get that clear...

Maybe with all those polyphenols and related compounds in the scotch, the molecule was really broken down. Not sure about that.

[Silentscream]

Originally Posted by dr_haldol

The LSD itself was okay? Same bottle, I guess? Just to get that clear...

Maybe with all those polyphenols and related compounds in the scotch, the molecule was really broken down. Not sure about that.

Yes, swim added a few ml of scotch whiskey to the bottle of LSD in order to dilute it a little so that dosing would be easier.

Swim is hoping that nothing in the whiskey could have broken down the LSD - but the liquid still glows brightly under UV light.

[dr_haldol]

Yes, swim added a few ml of scotch whiskey to the bottle of LSD

SWIM would have done that the other way round Just trying in small portions that can be discarded if something goes wrong.
And the glowing in the UV light isn't of enough proof that the LSD still is alright.

Is the LSD owned by SWIY doing what it's supposed to do?

[Panthers007]

Did SWIM wait at least a week between excursions? LSD causes tolerance right away quick.

[Silentscream]

Originally Posted by dr_haldol

SWIM would have done that the other way round Just trying in small portions that can be discarded if something goes wrong.
And the glowing in the UV light isn't of enough proof that the LSD still is alright.

Is the LSD owned by SWIY doing what it's supposed to do?

Swims friend tells swim that the cid is still working, two drops certainly produced LSD like effects, but no visuals reported.

Swim hasnt had the chance to try it himself yet though, as swim experieced a fairly intense trip (one drop before it was diluted) + 5 blotters, and is in no hurry to try it again, although he tells me it was beautiful..

[dr_haldol]

As Panthers007 already said, there also is a creation of tolerance. SWIM would wait 1-2 days and then try again.

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Check facts before giving advice. You are knocking on thousands of people's doors here.

[Silentscream]

Originally Posted by dr_haldol

As Panthers007 already said, there also is a creation of tolerance. SWIM would wait 1-2 days and then try again.

As I said, swim didnt try.. swim gave the drops to a friend who reported no visuals and little effect - hence the worries.

Swim cannot try himself for a while as he is still coming to terms with many realisations from his last trip - which was from the liquid before he diluted it.

Maybe in a month or so swim will try it and see for himself but for now he only has the word of his friend (and several others who also reported very little effect) to go by.

[dr_haldol]

This is tough chemistry...hard to guess whether the scotch compounds did anything to the LSD; but SWIM rather thinks so, from the reports of people that ingested it.

[Panthers007]

Originally Posted by dr_haldol

As Panthers007 already said, there also is a creation of tolerance. SWIM would wait 1-2 days and then try again.

Not a day or two - AT LEAST A WEEK. Got it? Or one might assume the critter is weak/ineffectual - followed by someone tripped out of their SWIMming skull. Or worse. At least LSD is relatively non-toxic. But many substances are not.

[Lobsang]

Maybe SWIMMERS as stated have tolerance. Maybe SWIM miscalculated the dilution and it is more dilute than intended. No idea about the chmistry question however.

[Panthers007]

Bongo Research, Inc. had access to Sandoz Labs LSD25 that had been dissolved in dark rum from the Virgin Islands for, at the time, 12 years. Their had been no discernible degradation. Scotch would be about the same - with a touch of amyl alcohol and sugar.

This is a problem dealing with tolerance and a SWIM - with tolerance - claiming loss of effect.

SWIM should re-surface in a week/month/year after a rest. Try again. Then report. If the Scotch ate the acid, Bongo will eat his hat.

[Lobsang]

SWIM heard that not to long ago an ampule was cracked for old times sake by some people bestowed with the honar to be there. From what SWIM heard the Delysid was still just fine. SWIM wonders how much is still left. No one can know.

SWIM wonders what was in the back of Dr Hoffmans refrigerator?

[Silentscream]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

Bongo Research, Inc. had access to Sandoz Labs LSD25 that had been dissolved in dark rum from the Virgin Islands

It was upon reading a previous description of this that swim concluded that scotch whiskey would likely be suitable to use to dilute the LSD.

Swims friend, the guinnea pig had no tolerance what so ever, in fact it was his first time using the substance - previous experience only with psilocybin a few months prior to this.

It has therefore only been tested on a subject with no tolerance following dilution, with little effect. The only conclusion swim is able to draw is that he miscalculated the ratio - as another swim has kindly pointed out.

Originally Posted by Panthers007

If the Scotch ate the acid, Bongo will eat his hat.

This is very reassuring. Many thanks Panthers!

Originally Posted by Panthers007

SWIM should re-surface in a week/month/year after a rest. Try again. Then report. If the Scotch ate the acid, Bongo will eat his hat.

Swim will report back sir!

[Silentscream]

A fresh guinnea pig tells me that 3 drops brought on a rather heavy trip. It seems swim must have miscalculated the dilution ratio when he tampered with the acid.

Thanks for the replies, and for setting swims mind at ease that his LSD is not going to be damaged by the whiskey!

Happy tripping everyone.