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Old 06-03-2005, 22:39
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ohh btw thx Jose1. Yeah - have read a few books on the spiritguides,... sometimes as animals oras amorph (formless)beings.


It seems to come natural to me to understand their message. Just let it pop up in your mind and let your own references do the talking, because the guide can only make things clear to you with the basis of understanding you cary in you. and if you do not get the message immediately give it time and it will become clear with time.


Sometimes animals appear to city folks simply because thetype of energy thespirit teacher is reminds them of a bear or a dog, bird or butterfly,.... but that does not mean that it is any of those animals.Humans have a tendecy togive the entities a form that they can recognize. Like maybe you see a mother bear and cubs , because teh entity you are conected with has a nutruring feeling.


Some enities are not of this earth. Some call them the demi gods. You find them on your way to the Almighty. Demi gods can seem powerfull in the eyes of the common,...... but they are not if you are under the wings of the ALLmighty.


The demi gods are usually the teachers of shamanism / sorcery. Unconditional love and understanding ( the allmighty )is the only thing that can give you a clear perspective on your dealings with the demi gods. So BE SURE WHY you want to deal with them. Let the allmighty give you the signs if you should heal someone or earth etc etc etc. He/she might have a different plan for you, then learning about the spirit world. It is absolutely okay to live a regular life too.


If you ever have a question or just want to hear my opinion, feel free to let me know.
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Old 08-03-2005, 19:13
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Trichocereus peruvianus hybrid




This hybrid contains simmilar
alkaloids to Trichocereus peruvianus, Trichocereus tershekki and Lophophora
williamsii cacti. Comparable in quantity of alkaloids to Lophophora williamsii.
We have this harvested and prepared nicely without the core, spines or white
flesh present. Traditional dosage is equal to 10-25g's of material

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I put 10g in a coffee grinder and mixed it in a milkshake (the
shopkeepers suggestion) aparently you don't taste it much this way
according to him. It tasted BAD but I got ot down over an hour or
so.

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I must say I am
very dissapointed. Next to no effect, I went back to the shop and
it turn out that there is a problem with this batch no one is getting
off. I will be getting a full replacement soon as the real deal
coms in.

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Shit how
dissapointing. Oh well when I get the new stuff I will report
back and let you all know how my first real experience goes!

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cheers

Q

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Happy Happy Joy Joy

my friend gave swim 50g replacement towards the 100g purchase swim
originally made. This 50g is to try out, aparently the last batch
was harvested in a rainy season degrading the quality of the cacti.



Let you know soon how all goes for swim

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Old 09-03-2005, 07:06
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let us know indeed.
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:15
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Just to clarify, jose1 mentioned that he was part of a
Native American council. However the acronym N.A.C. stands for
the Native American Church, which is the pan-tribal organization
established to protect and ensure Native Americans right to use Peyote
as a sacrament. There are supposedly a few Christian concepts
incorporated into the body of the NAC's belief system, and strong value
is placed upon things like tribal traditions, ritual purification,
brotherly love and acceptance, and abstention from alcohol. The
NAC actually helped the Peyote faith spread far beyond its original
geographic boundaries into the eastern United States and even Southern
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:49
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Yeah, exactly there is the NAC with does have some of it's
beliefs based in chritianity. However, you will find that most
councils do not follow any christian belief system. Most
councils are very distinct from the one mentioned above in that
way. The council I am in, peyote is just a small part of the
teaching.
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Old 12-03-2005, 21:58
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Will do!!!!



I was busy with a friend swim , and he was busy for 3 days testing some
2c-e two trips 24 hrs apart. Hopefully he trys the
cacti soon and lets me know.


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Old 04-04-2005, 11:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GDxCAT

</span>indjuwandjuwa, where did you hear about
terschekki containing DMT? Im willing to bet that it isnt true because
oral DMT without an MAOI is not active.

I have read that terschekki contains only minute quantities of
mescaline and has mostly N-mono-methyl mescaline, which is psychoactive
in its own right.

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If the info about these cacti containing tryptamines is true that would
explain why this lady who bought some Powdered Trichocereus Peruvianus
off me was asking about Tyramine content because she was supposedly
going to throw some MAOI like Syrian Rue into the mix.

Is this safe? If so I wanna try it. She also asked if could get her
some SanPedro because she heard it had less tyramine but I thought it also had
less mescaline.



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Is tyramine a tryptamine? I not sure it is.



People do mix MAOI's with mescaline though because it produces a
stronger and somewhat different trip. The reason she was aking for
tyramine content was because it is unsafe to mix tyramine with MAOI's.



If you do plan on trying this combo readall you can on MAOI. Erowid has a great vault for them.



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I am intrigued by the reports that T. cuzcoensis has a higher alkaloid
content than other Trichocereus species. I saw reports by one
online vendor that this species/hybrid has twice the alkaloid level of
T. peruvianus.



However, the one study which I was able to find online that had
actually tested the alkaloid levels (Cactaceae Alkaloids. X1, Alkaloids
of Trichocereus Species and Some Other Cacti, by Aguell et al.
&lt;http://www.tacethno.com/info/trichocereus/agurell.h tml&gt
reported that "the alkaloid rich T. cuzcoensis contained
3-methoxytyramine as the predominant alkaloid" and that "mescaline was
only a minor constituent."



Given that most people are after mescaline when they take Trichocereus,
these results are not promising, though I have no idea as to what
effects to expect from 3-methoxytyramine.


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I am intrigued by the reports that T. cuzcoensis has a higher alkaloid content than other Trichocereus species. I saw reports by one online vendor that this species/hybrid has twice the alkaloid level of T. peruvianus.

However, the one study which I was able to find online that had actually tested the alkaloid levels (Cactaceae Alkaloids. X1, Alkaloids of Trichocereus Species and Some Other Cacti, by Aguell et al. &lt;http://www.tacethno.com/info/trichocereus/agurell.h tml&gt reported that "the alkaloid rich T. cuzcoensis contained 3-methoxytyramine as the predominant alkaloid" and that "mescaline was only a minor constituent."
The levels of alkaloids vary insanely from specimen to specimen, which is why there is so much confusion about the strngths of cacti. It may well be that a certain harvest or a cerain plant of cuzcoensis contained twice as much mescaline as a peruvianus, but the one that was tested in the study you mention happened to be a weak plant, just because of genetics, soil and weather conditions etc.
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i orderd some of this cactus off of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. an oz. i ate the oz of dry skin and had a very mild trip. mostly felt like i was going to trip instead of actually tripping... at the end of the trip i became very sick. my stomach evacuated everything. i wouldnt even consider ordering more to trip harder than last... i dont like being poisoned.... ive tried peruvian torch powder and wigged balls... very bad experience

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