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Old 22-05-2008, 05:55
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Methylin and Adderall

Kind of new to these two. I got a script for 130 Methylin (generic ritalin) a month. I can switch to Adderall XR if these ones do not work. I enjoy the buzz, the comedown sucks but not as bad as crack which I had a long bout with in the past.
I was just wondering if anyone could help me out and let me know which is better. I snort the Methylin but don't really like to as I know the health factors involved with the fillers and all in the pills.
I heard that just eating two of the 20 mg adderall is better than snorting the methylin. Is this true?
Also I hope I am not starting a thread that has already been started but I go to the doc. soon and want to know if I should switch to Adderall XR 20 mg.
Any info would help.
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Old 23-05-2008, 16:22
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

Please read forum rules.

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Old 24-05-2008, 01:29
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

Yeah, definitely read the forum rules. If you don't want to use SWIM/SWIY you can generally talk about prescriptions in the context of legal usages such as problems you may experience from taking a normal dose. If SWIY wants to ask questions about how to abuse his prescriptions recreationally make sure he doesn't incriminate himself.
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Old 24-05-2008, 21:28
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

I know. I read the rules and should go back and edit but I have not abused any of the pills that I am prescribed. I just take them as I am supposed to and was just asking for a friend who takes them from his little brother.
I guess I must have typed wrong.
I am prescribed Methylin as well but do not abuse it. I was wondering which would be better for weight loss and ad/hd symptoms. Didn't know that was abusing them.

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Old 25-05-2008, 00:45
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

I would think Adderall would be a lot better for weight loss. When I tried ritalin for my ADHD it helped me focus a bit, but I didn't find it very stimulating. Adderall is a mixture of amphetamines which has been used for weight loss for decades.
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Old 27-05-2008, 20:50
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

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I know. I read the rules and should go back and edit but I have not abused any of the pills that I am prescribed. I just take them as I am supposed to and was just asking for a friend who takes them from his little brother.
I guess I must have typed wrong.
I am prescribed Methylin as well but do not abuse it. I was wondering which would be better for weight loss and ad/hd symptoms. Didn't know that was abusing them.
It is illegal to snort medication when it is prescribed to be taken orally.
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Old 30-05-2008, 05:40
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

I don't think there is a specific law against insuffulation, but in the context of Adderall I couldn't imagine a doctor not classifying that as drug abuse. Adderall is a controlled substance so abusing it could be illegal, although I believe a doctor would try to help a patient first before just calling the cops. Medications that are designed to be absorbed through the mucous membrane in the nose are designed with dispensing systems that suspend the medication in a fluid and contain chemicals that aren't dangerous to the nose. Adderall was designed to be taken orally so there are fillers and such that aren't good for your nose.
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Old 30-05-2008, 18:36
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

I don't have any pill bottles near me right now, but doesn't it say something like "it is unlawful to use this medication in any other manner than what is prescribed"?

I could be totally making that up, but I thought I saw it somewhere.
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Old 30-05-2008, 18:59
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Question Re: Methylin and Adderall

if someone did abuse adderall that has ADHD how many mg would be considered abuse...lets say the person weighs 56kg
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Old 30-05-2008, 23:15
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

Philly: The label reads exactly "CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. DANGEROUS UNLESS USED AS DIRECTED. Caution: Federal law prohibits the transfer of this drug to any person other than the patient for whom it was prescribed."

Karl: That all depends on Adderall tolerance, both gained from using Adderall and baseline tolerance. "Abuse" is really just using the medication in a way not directed by a doctor in order to achieve recreational value from it. If a doctor said take 20mg, and someone took 40mg, that would be considered abuse. If another doctor told the same person to only take 10mg, then taking 20mg would be considered abuse. It really falls on the judgment of a doctor to determine what abuse is for a person. Different doctors prescribe different amounts and using the medication in a way that they don't indicate and you don't discuss first could be considered abuse.
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

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I don't think there is a specific law against insuffulation, but in the context of Adderall I couldn't imagine a doctor not classifying that as drug abuse.
Are you kidding? It is unlawful for a person knowingly to use or be under the influence of a controlled substance except in accordance with a lawfully issued prescription. I apologize to the OP if his doctor directed him to crush up and proceed to insufflate methylphenidate; but if that's the case, I also hope that the doctor has his license revoked.

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Adderall is a controlled substance so abusing it could be illegal, although I believe a doctor would try to help a patient first before just calling the cops.
That's beside the point of avoiding self-incrimination.
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Old 31-05-2008, 07:12
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

My doctor never instructed me to do any such thing. I am unaware of any federal laws that pertain specifically to the use of controlled substances, despite searching before I posted, so I used the caveat "I don't think." So first of all, I never made a claim that there is no law against it.

In addition, you need to re-read my post. You responded to it as if I was saying that a doctor wouldn't classify insuffulation as drug abuse. I said, as you quoted,
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I clearly used a double negative in my post in order to convey that a doctor would, in fact, consider insuffulation drug abuse. I assume you understand what a double negative is because you're obviously proficient in writing english. I think you read my post too quickly and completely missed that, I just thought I would point it out because I didn't want to be thought of as thinking something like insuffulation isn't drug abuse.

Sorry if I was unclear, I just don't want to be misquoted.
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

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In addition, you need to re-read my post. You responded to it as if I was saying that a doctor wouldn't classify insuffulation as drug abuse. I said, as you quoted,
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I clearly used a double negative in my post in order to convey that a doctor would, in fact, consider insuffulation drug abuse. I assume you understand what a double negative is because you're obviously proficient in writing english. I think you read my post too quickly and completely missed that, I just thought I would point it out because I didn't want to be thought of as thinking something like insuffulation isn't drug abuse.
No, I got that, but it doesn't matter how a doctor would classify it; they would not be the ones seeking prosecution if it came down to it.
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Old 31-05-2008, 20:49
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

That's what I was saying in my original post. If a doctor suspects you of abusing drugs they're going to try and help you. If law enforcement suspects you of abusing drugs they're going to arrest you.
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

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That's what I was saying in my original post. If a doctor suspects you of abusing drugs they're going to try and help you. If law enforcement suspects you of abusing drugs they're going to arrest you.
My post explained to Gr8tful1 why he was told to go read the rules, because he clearly didn't quite understand what was wrong with his post. Since you had responded directly before my post, and then you were the first person to respond afterwards, I assume you were responding to me to say that his wording wasn't necessarily breaking any rules of self-incrimination; but here it appears you are aware that it is against the law, so I'm not sure what your point is -- what does a doctor's behavior in response to drug abuse have to do with the rule against self-incrimination? Or were you not responding to me?
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

I was responding to the OP, I didn't even see your post. Plus, I was trying to explain that I didn't think that any law specifically mentions insuffulation, the assumption being that drug abuse laws probably umbrella everything by making it illegal to use a controlled substance in a way different from directed on a prescription. The tie in with the doctor was that for a person seeing a regular doctor, the doctor would be the one who would most likely figure out that their patient is abusing their medication. So for practical purposes I assume a doctor would try and treat the problem before informing the authorities. I wasn't saying (or trying to imply) anything about doctors and self-incrimination.
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Re: Methylin and Adderall

i think this post kind of swung away from what it was meant to be. swiy wants to know what would be better for insuffilation.
---and while on the topic Swim has methylin er 20mg tabs about 12 left from a script for add.. of which they helped not at all that i noticed taking as directed. Swim wants to know if they can be snorted to "catch a buzz" (^) of sorts
Swim usually takes opiates when bored (like i am now) mostly OC's that swim gets for free from a friend but currently is out and im searching around to see if swim can do these.
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