Smoking - RC dipped cigarette

[Rush]

is possible to smoke RC dipping a cigarette in an high concentrated(known concentration so you know the exact liquid dose) solution of rc+alchool(or vodka) and then smoke the cigarette after it dries?

i know this method is used with pcp so it could be used with other chemicals?

[RaverHippie]

RC's come in salt form so it would need to be freebased first.

[Rush]

so they could if they are transformed in freebase form?

i thought it was all about issues on flame touching the chemical and thus destroying it , to make possible only vaporizer method

[0utrider]

is it just SWIM or are the "i wanna dip my cigarette into xy" threads actually popping up like bacteria on a old toilet seat these days?

SWIM thinks oyu cannot generalize the answer to ths question, SWIY has to look for more specific substances / state what he wants to know. it depends on the form and if the substances is smokeable in general. if so, it certainly would be possible, most likely. these infos can be check via wikipedia, are prolly already here in some thread or can be asked

he also just had to think about a combined "i wanna extract x from my urine " and "can i dip my cigarette into it" thread

[RaverHippie]

It depends on a chemical by chemical basis. Generally phenethylamines are hearty chemicals and don't degrade very easily. These are the ones with high melting (and vaporization pts) and AFAIK would require freebasing. Many tryptamines are very easily smoked so UTFSE on smoking in the tryptamine forum may yield results to SWIY's liking.

[Samadhi]

Swim would suggest not vaporizing 2c-x chemicals They are converted to carcinogens when vaporized and personally swim likes his hair(chemo's a bitch ya know?). swim would find this a hard task especially because one does not know how much liquid the cigarette could absorb and it could lead to underdoses, overdoses or if swiy lucky; normal doses.

As RaverHippie stated above, USFSE and see what research chemicals are used in smoked methods and could be dissolved in such small amounts of liquid to impregnate a cigarette accurately...

Just because ya can do it with PCP don't mean ya can do it with all chemicals.

[chaos69]

Originally Posted by samadhi123

Swim would suggest not vaporizing 2c-x chemicals They are converted to carcinogens when vaporized and personally swim likes his hair(chemo's a bitch ya know?).

just like the cigarette its dipped on. do you have links or titles of any papers that have found this with 2c's? i have access to journals so the title is fine. i hear this alot but am yet to see any studies on the matter. cigarettes on the other hand are bad so if your going to smoke it use a meth pipe. the meth pipe allows for you to smoke a bit then wait and then smoke more if you need too which would be a bit harder with a smoke. also the hcl salt of 2c-e, 2c-b and 2c-t-7 do vaporise.

[Rush]

SWIM tried to do this with phenazepam and worked quite well, so he was curious if other members have done it with other chemicals

[0utrider]

well phenazepam is a benzo, isnt it..??

[fnord]

You also have to relize that different chemicals can give off some very nasty stuff when heated.

Grandma is all for being a lab rat but not when it comes to risking cancer,

For more info you can try the search engine,i found these answers in about 20 seconds. Much quicker then asking a question and waiting for answers...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ghlight=cancer
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ghlight=cancer

[trptamene]

In general this is possible for all chemicals/drugs regardless of there designation. If you can get it in solution then all thats needed is to absorb this onto a smoking medium and letting solvent evaporate. You know have the chemical on a smoking medium.

Now whether it is a good idea to burn this and inhale the fumes is a completely different story, but as mentioned is very much specific to the chemical and vaporization method.

In general, smoking RC's is a bad idea.

[trptamene]

Does your lab rat know the difference between vaporization and pyrolysis? Am not saying these chemicals don't go into a vapor, but I'm not positive the majority of the vapor is the chemical when one heats the salt.

Smoking RC's seems to be much more credible with the freebase, but I am not sure. If you wanna smoke coke, you freebase it, would think the same w/ RC's

[chaos69]

well one certainly doesn't need much when vaporised so i can't imagine a great deal is being pyrolysed if any. plus when done right little to no residue remains. i wouldn't recommend actually smoking it because obviously the increased high temp present compared to vaporisation would increase chances of break down products being produced. either way the increased intensity in the come up when vaporising 2c-e for example can sometimes make it take a while to get the required amount in especially if one already has a tolerance. overall it is apparently quite enjoyable.

[Samadhi]

The effects of smoking 4 positioned halogenated phenethylamines is not proved harmful or harmless.

swiy is playing with a flare with an unknown button as a trigger. You may get a nice flare up in the sky giving off a good time with loads of dancing, or you may get a flaming hot red thing burning the hell out of swiys face.

Venturing to potentially dangerous ground with little knowledge of toxicology and chemistry is very risky as well (please see stupid flare analogy)

Take it easy and realize the word in front of chemical... i think it's 'research' as in it has little to no medical testing background. Don't over do it or test things that haven't been proven without knowledge and safety parameters.

just swims two cents

[chaos69]

i do fully understand that. i guess each researcher just has to decide if the potential risks out weighs the research gained. in all of swims vaporisation experiments these were merely done to experience differences between route used. swim is willing to take certains risks to gain experiences and knowlodge. if not he would not take any RC anyway. for some compounds swim thinks vaporisation is better and others oral is better. the time taken for some to kick in and dosage is what really holds oral back. if snorted didn't hurt so much then snorting would most likely be the favorite.