Oral use - Beleived to be DOM, DOC, Or DOI Story!

[sweetsweetmary]

Experience: ) 2 green gel tabs, not gel capsules, Might of been a slight bit of powder in them
AGE: 18 at the time
Mind Process: Fresh off a lay (that's right pussy), first psychadelic experience, probably weight 135, pounds that is. Took one then after about an hour and no feeling, maybe it was even an hour and a half, took another one. Had later taken one and tripped my ass off, so two was for monsters, and for SWIM to have taken two on his first, meant, well it meant bad trip.
Setting: In SWIM's buddies apartment, with a random chick he had just laid.

Ok guys, sWIM took this drug a while ago and loved it. SWIM will explain as much detail as SWIM knows about the substance, and if anyone can tell me what SWIM might have taken SWIM would appreciate it. It was around in 1999 - 2000. They were green, yellow, purple gel tabs. Small amount of powder is vaguely remembered, They would last 10-12 hours, and have similar effects to LSD, but different. One of SWIM's buddies had a souped out Play station that would do cool visuals to music. SWIM was listening to Orbital's brown album (maybe the best trance album of all time) and SWIM got stuck in the time loop for 8-10 hours off of one hit. The visuals were different from acid and any phen. sWIM would probably say it was a DO*. Whoever sold it to sWIM sold it as mescaline. But we all know one cannot consume enough mescaline in a gel tab to reach threshold. So anyway first time sWIM took the tabs, SWIM took one, onset was so slow SWIM didn't think it was going to work, so sWIM took another one. Bad mistake. SWIM tripped damn near 14-16 hours. When SWIM drove home about three hours in (really just having an overwhelming experience for sWIM's first trip ever!!) the visuals were insane. The trees were waiving at sWIM and they began to grow into the road ( a complete halucination) until sWIM thought SWIM was driving through the jungle. A bag rustled in the back of sWIM's car, and dave mathews himself grew out of the bag and preceded to have a conversation with SWIM. Meanwhile animals were running every which way in front of sWIM's car (sWIM means alot of animals, foxes , rabbits , deer) Another complete halucination. When SWIM finally made it home SWIM was freaked. SWIM layed in his bed in the dark and felt like he was cruising through the galaxy. SWIM woke up the next morning still tripping. SWIM noticed on this DO* sWIM's faces or transform in front of SWIM like Fear and Loathing when Depp tries to check into the hotel. SWIM also noticed a connection with trees and seeing trees smile and wave. SWIM also regurgitated one time early in the experience. SWIM got jarred early in the experience and this is why SWIM started to have a bad trip and decided to drive (BAD IDEA by the way). Time has completely stopped and allowed SWIM to play in a cartoon arena. Open eyes were the same as closed eyes.

Things that SWIM would like to add is that the visuals were extremely unorthodox cartoon type of visuals. One could get completely lost.

A different experience, SWIM's boy and SWIM went to see the matrix in the theaters when it first came out on it. On the way home sWIM's boy melted into his stick shift and we kept seeing convertables with extremely hot chicks waiving at SWIY's (another halucination). Time would completely stop on this drug. 8 hours would feel like a week. The five minute drive sWIM described felt like 2 hours. sWIm's theory is that it felt like some sort of souped up acid. Not acid though, lasted too long, and a double dose, doubled time. Thoughts and feedback would be appreciated!

[Shampoo]

While speculation on such an incident is near useless, there are a few points I see as poignant. First of all, it is certainly possible to fit a threshold dose and more of mescaline in a gel-cap. Swim has on several occasions, with his own supply of mescaline sulfate, filled personal 00 gauge gel-caps with up to 500mg with some breathing room. This also sounds characteristic of mescaline regarding the drastically increased duration at higher doses. Many have reported 16-18 hour trips off of 700+mg mescaline sulfate. The open eyed hallucinations could be characteristic of both high dose mescaline and DOx, though the time dilation seems so vividly descriptive of a mescaline experience. Swim wouldnt count the supplier as deceptive so quickly, is sounds as much like mescaline as it does a DOx.

[sweetsweetmary]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

While speculation on such an incident is near useless, there are a few points I see as poignant. First of all, it is certainly possible to fit a threshold dose and more of mescaline in a gel-cap. Swim has on several occasions, with his own supply of mescaline sulfate, filled personal 00 gauge gel-caps with up to 500mg with some breathing room. This also sounds characteristic of mescaline regarding the drastically increased duration at higher doses. Many have reported 16-18 hour trips off of 700+mg mescaline sulfate. The open eyed hallucinations could be characteristic of both high dose mescaline and DOx, though the time dilation seems so vividly descriptive of a mescaline experience. Swim wouldnt count the supplier as deceptive so quickly, is sounds as much like mescaline as it does a DOx.

wow sWIM didn't know that, but the gel tabs were like the window pane gel tabs almost the size of a tap of acid but with a button on top. SWIM would guess this is DOC. Probably around 5-6 mgs. But SWIM also hopes it is DOM as this experience has haunted SWIM for 8 years. Although SWIM has had mixed experiences SWIM has never been sucked into a visualizer and entered another dimension, litterally sucked in and swimming (haha SWIMing) through the visuals so intently in SWIM's life.

[bman1]

No one here can tell swim what was taken. It is impossible to know what a substance in without testing it. It may or may not have been lsd, DOx, a phen or tyrpt. There are too many things to guess what it really is. Swims advice is get a testing kit. Test before you take. one can have a pretty good guess at what is in the pill/powder before one takes it. One could also get a black light. It is impossible to know afterwards
Also after 8 years ones preseption could change altering the experince to thik it was more like another. Another thing to make it impossible to find the subsatce

[Samadhi]

People need to educate and stop ingesting little pills that are told to be "mescaline" or "a mescaline derivative"... mescaline cannot fit on a blotter, gel-tab or microdot. Not harshing on swiy but this forum is laden with posts exactly like this.

Speculation is futile-to quote Jatelka.

swiy may have ingested a DOx chemical, DOC at 5-6mg probably would not cause intense void or "sucked into a new dimension" type experiences... at least in swims experience it hasn't.

Shampoo: swim is going to doubt very much this is a mescaline experience. It doesn't fit. DOC and DOI have given swim very cartoonish visuals and extreme time dilation at large doses. This sounds like a DOx and a high dose of one.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Thanks for the Input!

[Panthers007]

Originally Posted by samadhi123

Speculation is futile-to quote Jatelka.

Yep ^^^...it sure is!

[sweetsweetmary]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

Yep ^^^...it sure is!

Yeah that was SWIM's first trip ever, and it did happen 8 or 9 years ago, but SWIM remembers it like it was yesterday. Thanks for the input guys, SWIM didn't think there was a way to know what it was other than to experience those visuals again. As far as the qualitative differences in all the Do*, are they major or subtle?

[Samadhi]

Differences between DOx chemicals are small if one has not experimented with all of the major ones (DOB DOC DOM DOI) but swim has found that he can distinguish between them after trying them all out many times.

DOM is the most unique of the bunch in swims opinion. It's visual intensity is very good and rivals if not tops good LSD25 for swims lab-cats (at doses 7-10mg)

DOC is visual candy and body fuzz, overall a friendly chemical with no side effects aside from the long duration of effects.

DOB is unfriendly to swim but seems to be very popular, It caries a higher body-load and less visuals.

DOI was boring to swim, it was the weaker of the bunch and had less of an enjoyable profile of the four.

Swim cannot identify the chemical you took though, sorry.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Very nice. Please expand!

[Winta]

Could it be Lucigenol?

SWIM just heard about a large batch that was released from China (15kg+)

[Panthers007]

Originally Posted by samadhi123

Differences between DOx chemicals are small if one has not experimented with all of the major ones (DOB DOC DOM DOI) but swim has found that he can distinguish between them after trying them all out many times.

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Umm...DOM is not a DOx. The 'x' in the DOx is chemical nomenclature that infers a halogen: Fluorine, Chlorine, Bromine, Iodine, and Astatine. Not to worry - few people speak this language.

I would be very interested in hearing more about this shipment from China. Can SWIM find out what it is? If so, or anything else, please post.

Thank you.

[Winta]

Yes, Lucigenol chemical structure is: (R)-3-((1-methylpyrrolidin-2-yl)methyl)-1H-indol-4-ol

and it should be active in less than 1mg.

One of SWIMs friends tested 0,0004g and had mild visuals and psychedelic effects a bid like a small dose of LSD.

[Panthers007]

Thank you! Very interesting. Bongo will take a look...

[intripciti]

When swim took last weekend on a Saturday at around 10:30 am after being on XTC the night before and only sleeping for one hour he forgot most of his first 10 hours (12:30pm-10:30pm) of the trip, only remembers it was full of laughter and happiness in the daytime just tripping at the beach, 10 hours in at a friends house swim had over 5 cones of some real chronic, he then felt straight(sober) which thought was very weird.

5 minutes later suddenly the most high pitch and low pitch sirens started blaring inside his head for about a hour, felt like swim had left his body and was only a head, swims body felt completely invisible and non existent. But could completely feel what he thought was his soul and had no idea what was causing that high and low pitch never ending siren like noise inside his head, was waiting for ages to end.

[Panthers007]

Are you speaking of SWIM's taking (R)-3-((1-methylpyrrolidin-2-yl)methyl)-1H-indol-4-ol? Please clarify.

Thank you.

[Samadhi]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

Umm...DOM is not a DOx. The 'x' in the DOx is chemical nomenclature that infers a halogen: Fluorine, Chlorine, Bromine, Iodine, and Astatine. Not to worry - few people speak this language.

(hits self on head.) dammit. swim knew that. sorry panthers007. Chemistry, is not this swimmers forte. swim was using DOx in the sense of just the chemical used to modify the DO. Swim never stopped to think that methyl wasn't part of the halogen picture.

whoops. Swim will get better.

[ODB]

5-meo-amt? Maybe?