Ethyl Chloride Help

[jc1010]

Can anyone provide me with information about this?. Ive been to Wikipedia and such but I dont think its enough information. Does anyone know if this is dangerous?. I do know that inhalants are dangerous, but this one seems to be not as harmless. Ive only done it once and it was a pretty strong effect on me. Ive never done Dust Off and I never will, I think I've researched enough to know that shit kills you pretty fast, however, what about Ethyl Chloride? is it safe?.. Is it true that SSD (sudden sniffing death) can happen from inhaling this, or that's just for Dust Off?

[Panthers007]

Ethyl Chloride is a dissociative anesthetic similar in actions and effects to Diethyl Ether and nitrous oxide. A monkey experimenting with this should follow the same protocols for Diethyl Ether. Ethyl Chloride is extremely flammable. When it burns(with a green flame!), it releases Hydrogen Chloride gas - which is toxic and corrosive. EC boils below room temperature and requires a freezer for storage, as well as a strong container. Small amounts can be dispensed into a glass jar for use. If it contacts the skin, it will boil away and freeze the tissue. This is why it is used as a local anesthetic for such purposes as removing warts and applying tattoos.

It should be used in an open area so vapors do not collect as this presents a fire/explosion hazard.

It is not poisonous like Dust-Off or huffing Toluene. It has a wide margin of safety and does not show carcinogenic effects in lab animals(does not cause cancer). It should, nevertheless, not be used by pregnant women (or men, I suppose). It was first brought to light as a recreational substance by medical people on the West Coast in the 1960's in the US.

Ethyl Chloride is not a controlled substance at this time of writing. But other state/local laws may apply - such as "Inhaling Intoxicating Vapors." - Massachusetts.


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[jc1010]

Whoah. A lot more information than I expected. Thanks a lot! Its been pretty informative. So, the bottom line is, it is commonly used as a recreational inhalant but it doesnt harm you like Dust Off. Obviously if you inhale too much you will indeed die from an overdose, but it is not poisonous. Nice! However..is the whole SSD (sudden sniffing death) possible?..Does it even really happen at all?

[Panthers007]

Never heard of that. But if it happens to people from N2O and/or Diethyl Ether - then it's possible. But must be rare, or we'd see little government pamphlets on "Ethyl Chloride - Jimmy's Funeral!"

[jc1010]

Heh. true.. Hmm anyway, It'd be nice to have some other information, if anyone else knows more about Ethyl Chloride please post it..I would like to know some more opinions on the matter..just wanna be sure it's really that safe..

[geezaman]

SWIM is greatly intrigued, SWIM has not noticed one but does a list of dissociatives exist somewhere here? If not could one be created by someone with greater knowledge than SWIM?
peace geezaman

EDIT 2- Below irrelevant, found records of its regular use as an inhaled anesthetic given before administration of ether.
EDIT- SWIM just looked at a MSDS for ethyl chloride, and its listed as an irritant to eyes and mucous membranes and a mutagen, (on the same search he found that nitrous oxide is also a mutagen and a teratogen, should SWIM be worried?), If it is an irritant SWIM would be right in thinking inhalation in similar fashion to diethyl ether would be inappropriate... wouldn't he?

As JC10 says above, any more info would be much appreciated
Peace
Geezaman

[jc1010]

Well, SWIM tried it once and he says he didnt notice any kind of irritation..he has done some research about ethyl chloride and it seems to be pretty safe like nitrous oxide..however more information about it would be awesome..

Has SWIY tried it before geezman?..

[geezaman]

SWIM has not tried ethyl chloride but is intrigued, and unless his research provides him with good reason not to intends to in the near future and will report back.

SWIM found although MSDS sheets list it as an irritant it was often used as an inhaled anesthetic before administering ether
One site suggested in comparison to other inhaled anesthetics it was more likely to cause deffication, and vomiting. Also that it had a pleasant ether smell and burning taste.

[jc1010]

SWIM has huffed it too, and he says it has a really sweet taste, no irritation though..maybe the irritation is from prolonged use?..SWIM has found that prolonged use can cause some damage to kidneys and liver, but thats after prolonged use.. like years or so.. and SWIM doesnt intend to stick to it for that long, he thinks it's that kind of dissociative that is really cool, but from time to time..not ALL the time.

However SWIM is open to new information. as much as he can get..if somebody else has some info about it. dont hesitate to post!

[Panthers007]

I believe the irritation referenced has to do with skin, or eye, contact with the liquid. As it has such a low b.p. (boiling point), poured on the skin it produces freezing of the tissue. This numbing-cold is why it's used as a topical anesthetic for such things as piercing ears. The freezing leaves the skin red and scaly - voila! - skin irritation.

[jc1010]

Oh, so that's why there's skin irritation.. thanks again!.. Well SWIM believes its pretty safe so he will continue to try ethyl chloride..unless there's some new info or something about it!..
Has SWIY tried it before Panthers?

[geezaman]

SWIMs found out a little more, as well as ethyl chloride, its known as monochloroethane, and chloroethane.
As brand names such as robtussin and bendryl are given in the DXM area as products containing only DXM, and the same with red devil lye in the chem forums, SWIM cannot see that there is any problem in mentioning Cryogesic, as a brand of anesthetic freezing spray containing only (from SWIMs research) ethyl chloride.

It seems ethyl chloriode is usually taken by spraying some onto a cloth and inhaling from it (similarly to ether). SWIM found a report on erowid where a user would spray the cloth and put it in their mouth to inhale from, it was suggested this practise was used because the "buzz" obtained was better... to SWIM having anything stuffed in ones mouth when using a substance likley to make the user loose conciousness seems very unwise.

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Nice info. Refering brand names and alternative compounds names always helps more people finding this topic and get more...

[jc1010]

It is true that the "buzz" obtained from it is better but SWIM thinks you're not likely to lose conciousness unless you inhale non-stop for quite some time, SWIM inhales from cloth, take that cloth away from his mouth and ifnothing happens he does it again.. the effects eventually kick in, SWIM doesnt stuff the piece of cloth in his mouth, it would be very unwise and stupid, and kinda dangerous too, only really careless people would do it like that..SWIM always takes the piece of cloth away from his mouth before there is any kind of effect..

[Heretic.Ape.]

I believe I posted a medical article on this several months ago in the archive but can't find it at the moment. Extended use can cause a bundle of issues (I'll elaborate when I find the article again) but these symptoms recede shortly after stopping usage. I'd forgotten that I was researching to post an informational article on this substance... maybe I'll dust off my research hat and try to expand this thread a bit when I have some time on my hands. (forgive the rather contentless nature of this post, it's more of a reminder to myself than anything )

[Fantasian]

does anyone have an idea of how much chloroethane should be applied to a towel or cloth for one use? We talking a whole bottle (50mls) or just a small amount~?

Also am I understanding this right that this isnt dangerous if used sparingly, i was to understand this kind of chemical literally dissolved organic material say for example brain tissue.

[geezaman]

SWIM purchased a 100ml spray can of ethyl chloride and found a quick spray on a rag that was then folded was enough to experience its effects, a further 2 - 4 sprays (once inhaled and held for a reasonably long time) rendered SWIM noticeably numb. SWIM found more than a quick spray to be wasteful and made inhalation difficult, often resulting in (a short lasting but still unpleasant) chemical like burning sensation in the throat.
Peace
Geezaman

[chl182]

Spongebob has recently done it but through the nose and not the mouth. Spraying the whole bottle in one go would encourage the user to inhale more of the substance causing a possible state of lack of oxygen. Spray a little by little... It's still good

[geezaman]

Snuffkin did not realise he had not added further experience to this thread, apologies for reviving one that has aged somewhat.

Snuffkin has found ethyl chloride to be similar to nitrous in some ways, never reaching the depth that nitrous sometime offers but having a great increase in the desire for "another spray". If alcohol is mixed in KOing can become a regular occurrence/recurrence. The desire for more (for snuffkin at least) especially when already slightly drunk is much much greater than that of nitrous, even though it is not as pleasant to consume (nitrous being a sweet light gas, and ethyl chloride tasting chemical, and giving a slight or significant burn factor, similar to strong spirits).

Glancing at an MSDS for ethyl chloride it also seems it could be more harmful in a number of ways than Nitrous oxide

Peace
Geezaman

[DarkDead]

Ethyl chloride is the only compound present in those sprays used in soccer when a player gets injured, commentators usually call it "magic spray".
Lifeguards in Southern Europe carry ethyl chloride sprays in their first aid kit. Most of it's use is to alleviate the pain caused by weevers stings.

In Portugal, where nitrous oxide is rare, those sprays are the best known and more used inhalant drug. SWIM remembers many of his friends trying it when they were young. They used to spray it to a cloth like described by geezaman. People often said one should never inhale directly from the spray can or one might get his airways freezed.
After taking it most of SWIM's friends sat still while some few run around like mad. They reported things like "feeling numb", "seeing colors" or "my legs didn't belong to me". Although, at that time, most couldn't make sense of the experience and those that could understand something hadn't got the vocabulary to express it.

[halothanatos]

SWIM recently came upon a can of this stuff.

He reported it as being similar to nitrous but somewhat more intense and dirtier.

At several points he heard the voice on the TV switch from fast-forward to slow-motion really quickly back and forth.

He used up the whole 3.5oz can in one night. By the end, he felt like his brainwaves were distorted and fuzzy, like radio static. A bit scary, but he has no regrets.

[geezaman]

Originally Posted by halothanatos

....He reported it as being similar to nitrous but somewhat more intense and dirtier.

....He used up the whole 3.5oz can in one night. By the end, he felt like his brainwaves were distorted and fuzzy, like radio static. A bit scary, but he has no regrets.

Snuffkin fully agrees, The hangover off it is quite unpleasant, couldn't put it better than "brainwaves were distorted and fuzzy, like radio static"

The stuff is really evil for fiendishness.

Glad someone else is enjoying this substance

Peace
G