Setting - LSD use for someone with reservations.....

[Debaser]

SWIM has done many, many drugs. Pretty much everything but meth, crack and heroin. SWIM has a few doubts... should SWIM worry about LSD?

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Originally Posted by Debaser

SWIM has done many, many drugs. Pretty much everything but meth, crack and heroin. SWIM has a few doubts... should SWIM worry about LSD?

Maybe SWIM should qualify....... they arre very, very worried about losing their mind. SWIM is worried about the control element...?

[illume.]

1, tell swiy not to bother
2, utfse, lots of experiences have been posted

[moda00]

Yes, if swiy fears LSD, fears losing his mind, it is not a good drug to do. It should only be done if one has a positive outlook on it, and feels it will be a good experience- LSD is a long trip and an intense one. It can also be very euphoric and very spiritual, but any fears or negative energies are magnified and can easily become a "self-fulfilling prophecy."

[pinkandfluffy]

If you ahve had many intense drug-induced experiences before, then taking a small dose of LSD should be manageable. Smaller doses aren't very delusional, and you can nearly always stay sane.

[moda00]

Originally Posted by pinkandfluffy

If you ahve had many intense drug-induced experiences before, then taking a small dose of LSD should be manageable. Smaller doses aren't very delusional, and you can nearly always stay sane.

But lsd doesn't "cause one to go insane" despite popular belief. So if one is so afraid of this, or apprehensive, that they must cling to reality and sanity, it's not worth doing (in my opinion). Swim finds LSD very euphoric, intense, and positive for the most part, and if the OP wants to do it, they may well have a positive experience too- but only if they can overcome their fear or apprehension. There is no reason to ingest a substance one is apprehensive about taking (unless it's an excited kind of apprehension, the butterflies feeling ) Read some positive trip reports, journal on one's thoughts, and start with a low dose, but go with it- don't fight it because that will make for a difficult time.

Has one done mushrooms, RCs, any other psychedelics? If so, one needs to look at acid the same way. If one enjoys psychedelics in general and has had good experiences, one understands. They are all intense and vivid and usually worthwhile.. LSD is a longer duration than some other psychedelics, and has its own character like any drug, but really it is a psychedelic like anything else is a psychedelic. Preparation for the trip, mentally and physically, should be similar.

[pinkandfluffy]

Originally Posted by moda00

But lsd doesn't "cause one to go insane" despite popular belief. So if one is so afraid of this, or apprehensive, that they must cling to reality and sanity, it's not worth doing (in my opinion). Swim finds LSD very euphoric, intense, and positive for the most part, and if the OP wants to do it, they may well have a positive experience too- but only if they can overcome their fear or apprehension. There is no reason to ingest a substance one is apprehensive about taking (unless it's an excited kind of apprehension, the butterflies feeling ) Read some positive trip reports, journal on one's thoughts, and start with a low dose, but go with it- don't fight it because that will make for a difficult time.

Has one done mushrooms, RCs, any other psychedelics? If so, one needs to look at acid the same way. If one enjoys psychedelics in general and has had good experiences, one understands. They are all intense and vivid and usually worthwhile.. LSD is a longer duration than some other psychedelics, and has its own character like any drug, but really it is a psychedelic like anything else is a psychedelic. Preparation for the trip, mentally and physically, should be similar.

Okay, te word "sane" was a bad choice. But if you take higher doses the trip can overcome you, and you can get a bit lost...

[GentlyWeeps]

Swim took lucy for his/her first time two days ago. He took around two hits. He was worried about not enjoying himself and not being able to handle himself. He was wrong he fully enjoyed himself and could def handle himself.

He is very paranoid when it comes to pot and gets great anxiety while smoking. After he leaves the area he is ok.

But while Swim took lucy there was no paranoia. You dont lose your mind, you still know whats going on to an extent. You can go do things you know your in your room or where you are for the most part, you can get dressed, or get things for yourself.

Its just your thought processes are something that you've never experienced before.

Swim thinks you need to be a strong minded person to be able to bear it. Lucy is not for everyone, but it can do so much good.

Swim will post his experience within a couple days.

[Lobsang]

Well I have dreamed that I have taken LSD many times at high dose levels and low dose levels. For many many years. I have had many dreams that I took LSD. What I would say is that the drug is very dose dependent. IF one takes normal dose the first time they are very unlikely to have a problem as a normal person. To take high doses the first few times is unwise. I will say that there is really only one thing that can happen to a person from taking it and it is a fact. That is a condition called HPPD. You do not go crazy or anything but you can have visual perception problems for a long time after taking it. Different people have different opinions on how many people get it. In one dream I had I took a very high dose of mescaline and had HPPD for 2 years. But after it went away I went back to taking LSD and mescaline in the dream and never had a problem again. So no LSD does not make you crazy. At least not taking it occasionally at reasonible dose levels. I think it is very safe.

[UpAllNiteOCXTC]

swiy just described swim!

Oh man. Well swim's not gonna write an essay on here, but she'd LOVE to enlighten swiy. So if swiy would like to know the truth about lsd, private message her.

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PS the only drugs i will not do are heroin, crack, and meth..

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EDIT: the only drugs SWIM will not do are crack, heroin, and meth.

[moda00]

Yes, I think it is a very different reality, a very intense experience. Allowing something else to take the lead sometimes (and being okay with that) is part of the learning process. Sanity versus insanity are perceptions, realities, and control over such or lack there-of. But with LSD I don't look at it that way. I see it as opening another mode or channel of the brain and perception, dosage can certainly make the changes in perception seem stronger, which can be frightening at a point for some users. But I don't think a 'fine line' of sorts between having and losing control, or between sane and insane, is a good analogy- it's just a different reality and one doesn't have to see it as threatening.

[Panthers007]

When Bongo was accused of attacking his neighbor, who was insane in most anyone's book, the local version of Social Engineers called for a meeting of the crazy woman and Bongo - with the Social Engineers. The nutcake had demanded her rights to have an 'advocate' for her in attendance. She felt one of Bongo might do something nasty one-on-one and she wanted backup.

She began her monologue of how Bongo had just been chasing her car. Bongo had been hiding under her bed. Bongo was spying on her from her closet. And so on. Then she stated that she was going to sue Bongo for stalking her. At this point Bongo could take no more. He burst out laughing! The crazy woman howled in anger and accused Bongo of trying to psyche her out by having a gargoyle on his porch that was overlooking her car. This went on, with nothing being resolved. The advocate for the nutter tried her best: "It's just that she has different perceptions. We must honor those perceptions."

After this Social Engineering Festival was over and done, Bongo's phone rang. It was the chief Social Engineer: "Well, we didn't get far, did we? I would like to schedule another meeting. What do you think?" Bongo thought for about a split-second: "Look, man, that woman is completely nuts. Why bother?" Mr. Engineer then said to our hero: "She just has different perceptions. We must approach it that way. Now about another meeting?" Bongo rolled his eyes: "Different 'perceptions'? She has different 'perceptions'? So does the guy who thinks he's Napoleon!."

And that was the end of Social Engineering Meetings.

Yes - sane and insane are words that have no real value. Especially in a world that buys into being "politically correct." Common sense, something that we all used before the social engineers got their hands on the dictionary, calls that which is such - such that it is. Taking so much LSD that one is rendered virtually helpless like a leaf in a wind-tunnel is not being insane. It's being rendered virtually helpless by a large dose of LSD. Insane is believing you are God - long after the drug wears off - and proceeding to demand your neighbors worship you and give you their paychecks each week.

I swear "political correctness" climbed out of a think-tank owned by the CIA. As an apologist movement to the Nazis (who trained the CIA after World War II). "Oh we can't call them Nazi scum! That wouldn't be politically correct. We must refer to them as Jewishly Diminished!" - sticking finger down my throat. Semantics.