Combinations - Piracetam combination experiences

[Tony Blair]

Anyone to post Experiences with Piracetam + MDxx here?



Thanks

[daeron]

I hope it isnt too long,also forgot to mention in the text that you should use piracetam atleast 2weeks before you do drugs
This "experiment" has realy changed my perception on the wonderfull world of phsychoactive chemistry
hope you enjoy

Here is a short translation of a bioassay regarding piracetam/other drug combinations:

Swims dog had a dream of an experiment done by three individuals, lets call them evilelf, confusio and daeron. Each subject started taking 2400mg of piracetam(3x800mg dose) one and a half week prior to the drug abuse..err I mean experiment. Two subjects were experienced drug users but confusio tried only pot.

After 1.5 weeks:
D: noticeable improvement in cognitive functions, increased memory, no side effects.
EE: increased memory, hyperactivity(4000mg)
C: increased memory, sometimes insomnia
Oh,yeah and definitely mood elevation.
Combinations:

Caffeine:
All three of us experienced very lowered tolerance for caffeine, swim personally found this a bit annoying because a few cups of coffee would propel him into a speedy like state of mind, thoughts racing, mouth chattering…very speed like.

THC:
While evilelf noticed nothing, D. and C. found that they were more clear minded,
and somehow more creative, but only in small doses. Also the stoned state was harder to achieve.. does piracetam somehow increase thc tolerance? the quality of the effects does not diminish but you got to smoke more(this was confirmed by some other people too).Longer trips.

Mdma:
Notes: d,ee and c did 10 sessions using only white heart pills, which when taken alone lasted for~2h for daeron and evilelf and 3h for confusion(lucky notolerancebastard
During every session all victim..subjects used 2000mg of vitC,50-60mg vitE and various Mg,Zn,Ca etc supplements. Every abuse was followed with atleast one week pause.
First 2 sessions every one dropped only 1 pill then we got bored and
started dropping 2-3 but always in this order:
T0:00 1-1.5 pill
T1:00 0.5-1pill
T1:45 0.5 pill

Overall impressions are great!
Piracetam somehow decreases the mdma tolerance, the peak lasts
noticeably longer,
there are less speedy fx, and swim remembered why E was so
wonderful drug…all
that from only one dose. Piracetam prolongs the peak and the
experience, and the
comedown is more smooth. At higher doses closed eye visuals
where present(swim
never experienced that before) in all
three subjects, along with slight audio hallucinations(this could be
the work of
cannabis).There were almost no sign of hangovers, depressions et
( d and ee use 5-htp
and a lot of bananas, immediately after the comedown).
I you ask me for an ideal recipe for a magical night out I would
recommend :
-2400mg piracetam
-2 mdma/mdea pills
-a lot vitamins
-optionally some pot
this usually will leave us peaking for around 4-4.5h,and if you want a 6-7hour trip
drop 3(first 1.5,then every half an hour 0.5).
With piracetam less is definitely more.

Speed:
daeron experienced the most intense speed experience..snorted only one small line. Speed was medium quality.Needs more “research”…

LSD,2cb and shrooms:
Only one word- wow!
Around here acid is so crappy that you could rarely trip on one blotter, until piracetam I mean.From a medium dose you will get open eye visuals,time loops, the works.And this maybe is my subjective opinion-no bad trips. Same goes for mushies and nexus, but with more intense emotions,and confusio had one profound religious experience(it was his first time on shrooms-if you ask me religion and drugs doesn’t mix).

There is got to be some serious serotonin/piracetam interaction going on.

Alcohol:
All three got really drunk really easy. Piracetam and alcohol IMHO is a no no.

Conclusion:
Piracetam definitely lowers tolerance and prolongs effects of all above mentioned drugs, so with some organization and self control (swim was not very famous for his self control) you could have far more fun with a lot less brain damage.Keep only one thing in mind,piracetam may (its not confirmed) deplete choline (and acethyl choline) from your brain, so use lecitin or choline supplements. Also don’t use piracetam for more than 3months without pauses,but that is just my paranoia speaking.

Have fun ,be safe stay smart

Reputation Comments on this post:

	thanks for writing about your experiences
	Excellent, thanks for sharing.

[daeron]

i was taking daily doses,but evilelf told me you could achieve similar effects if you take high doses before and during the trip-3x800mg before and 800mg during the roll

[Tony Blair]

As you may have guessed, I am pretty interested in this topic at the
mo, so am bumping it up (and will be doing as and when interesting
reading turns up - apologies in advance, mods)

[zipoo]

swim hassome experience with Piracetam and X. think it is a good to take when coming down the next day. it is hard to say if it's teh pira or all the other supplements that swip takes when coming down. but it dosne't hurt. in general pira is good to take with choline.

[mariecurie]

I have heard that piracetam goes very well with LSD, X, or meth. I
haven't tried any of these personally, but anecdotally they seem very
positive. I'm sure you've read it, but one retrospective report on
Erowid about these three combos seemed overwhelmingly positive. He
described how the piracetam smoothed out the comedown of uppers, made
them last longer, made them more spiritual, etc.



It's too bad it's a pain to order piracetam.

[Stingray_313]

So, im curious about this piracetam stuff... is it legal in the united
states? If so, how does one order this? Is it prescription or just
supplementary or what? I know nothing about this, and am quite
interested, considering all the positive feedback reports from erowid.



Any info would be welcome



peace

[variation]

personally, I seem to notice a mild enhancement of some stimulant type
drugs with use of piracetam 2400mg/day for a few days prior, however
this may be placebo, as it's not definite enough to be certain... not
that I have ever felt myself to be influenced by placebo before... but
I'm still uncertain with this... piracetam's mode of action as
far as I know is through increasing the fluidity of neurotransmitter
action through cells, so they have a greater effect, unless any new
information has come to light, so this should enhance the action of
neurotransmitters, but I don't think there is anything too concrete
with this, unless someone can correct me?

[zipoo]

It's too bad it's a pain to order piracetam.
[/QUOTE]


readily avaliable in the US and it's very cheap.

[GDxCAT]

i tried piracetam with mdma a few days ago. I certainly noticed an
increase in effects. I can say much aboiut extending the duration as i
took a pill every hour for 3 hours and that should make the roll
significantly longer on its own. But i did feel as if my diose of mdma
was higher than it actually was.

[Iggypoop]

Haha, i have a box of nootropil 800's (piracetam) sitting beside me! i think i might try it with methylone and see what the effects are, sounds like it could make it last a little longer. Anyone know of mixing piracetam with hallucinogens?

[GoaM]

Piracetam is great to take with MDMA. It strengthens the roll and reduces some of the negatives. LOL. You can get etarded and still think. I highly recommend it.

[mattp]

SWIM had a great experience in a combo of 2c-i w/ 1800mg of piracetam.
visuals were definately enhanced.SWIM never tripped balls so hard off
20mg of 2c-i visually. visuals were actually comparable with pretty
good dose of acid, with a clear mind. fun trip.

[GoaM]

That's great Mattp. I haven't tried combining piracetam and 2c-i. I will definitely give it a shot. Most of my visuals with 2c-i involve warping and moving and flowing. No real colors or fractals. I would love some enhancement and clearer thinking. Excellent, thanks.

[daeron]

piracetam works great for enhancing 2ci,2ce,2cd and DiPT.Tried and tested.Clarity of mind is what swim has noticed in every 2c-x or tryptamine/piracetam combo.


On DMT/5MeO-DMT swim hasnt noticed any change,maybe because they are so intense that there is no way to notice?

[mattp]

SWIM hasnt noticed any fractals w/ 2c-i either... except in CEV.

SWIM gets acid-like visuals with 2c-i...

for SWIM, mushrooms = fractals

cid, 2c-i,e = flowing

[macamaca]

does piracetam helpsthe comedown of mdma?

[daeron]

it makes the comedown less... how should i put it...the comedown wont be such a big deal,youll even enjoy it..kinda

[macamaca]

what is the recommended dosage and when should this be taken?

[daeron]

swim and all of his friends usually take 3-4x800mg daily at least a week prior to any self abuse,but if youre interested in the mdma crash only then you should find some 5htp

[GoaM]

I took piracetam (2400mg) before 2ci. I noticed a reduction of negative affects and a definite increase in clearmindedness. A very rewarding and enjoyable experience. Piracetam is a definite enhancer.

[korky8097]

Well i didnt really see a concrete answer on this, but if it is legal
and readily available, where would one find this? I dont think
this is againts the rules seeing it is not a recreational drug, is it
available at like GNC or places like that?

[nanobrain]

for those taking piracetam, you should also be taking a cholinergic precursor such as centrophenoxine (lucidril) or any other choline supplement if you cant obtain centrophenoixine, as piracetam tends to deplete the brain's ACh reserves.

[Iggypoop]

I noticed that i got pretty bad headaches unless i took the choline suppliments, felt like a funny pressure building up in my head. The choline is a must!

[zipoo]

is choline also needed when taking other ...cetam like aniracetam?