Opinions - So People, How Does One Keep Tolerance DOWN?

[ejbot]

swim smoked bud about 2-3 times a day... wake and bake, and about 3 hours before bed, and maybe once through out the day with a friend or what not.

smoking a few bowls of chronic (very high quality bud) 3 times a day, gave swim some tolerance, or maybe swim is just very accustomed to being blazed now?

swim has been smoking bud since like jan 06, but took two 6 month breaks.

wondering what all you swiy's do to keep tolerance down?

maybe just smoke less quality bud so swim wont have to change any habits?

[Norman14]

My friend normand has been doing it almost daily for 3 months and hasn't build any significant tolerance. Only thing normands noted is that he can control his state and can better assess wether hes 1-10 and when to stop smoking, to not overshoot being 10.

Normand hes also noted that smoking with a bong is better than all other options, because he uses less grass but gets more stoned.

[Nature Boy]

Just smoke less often. Pretty straightforward. As it happens, SWIM hasn't smoked in a couple of days, which is unusual for him. Next time he lights up a bong he'll probably be in dreamland.

[hansard85]

Swim has never been a heavy marijuana user until lately, hes been smoking about 4 grams a day by himself and he doesnt really beleive that hes developed a tolerance so much as he is just getting accustomed to being stoned so it takes more weed to get him to a point where he isnt accustomed to. Its not so bad, wake and bake still rocks and other strains of pot seem to be like smoking a different substance, 1 weed will fuck him up even though its a less potent strain that his usual smoke. Hes pretty sure it has to do with the % of certain cannoboids in each strain of weed resulting in a slightly different high than normal. if you arent accustomed to that exact strain then it will be like smoking for the first time in weeks.

[FuBai]

There are several things you can do if SWIY don't want to decrease SWIY's consumption levels:

1) Change where SWIY smokes and who SWIY smoke with. There is some evidence to suggest that tollerance may be increased by smoking in a familiar place. Find somewhere SWIY haven't smoked before that, for preference, has a completely different atmosphere.

2) Switch strains. I am not sure whether this will actually decrease your tollerance to the active chemicals in cannabis, but it will alter the ratio at which they are present and thus change the nature of the high, making it more novel.

3) Switch consumption methods - perhaps try oral consumption. Again I am not sure whether this actually decreases your physical tollerance but it changes the nature of the intoxication and can make you feel "more high".

If you are prepared to decrease consumption levels then I suggest you drop smoking on several days of the week - give yourself 2-3 days on and 2-3 days off. It is surprising how quickly physical tollerance to cannabis can diminish if use is ceased - in roughly 5-7 most physical tollerance will be gone.

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Good ideas, interesting about location

[Shampoo]

There are several things you can do if SWIY don't want to decrease SWIY's consumption levels:

1) Change where SWIY smokes and who SWIY smoke with. There is some evidence to suggest that tollerance may be increased by smoking in a familiar place. Find somewhere SWIY haven't smoked before that, for preference, has a completely different atmosphere.

This is very sound advice. Smoking in familiar settings has been shown to drastically decrease the amount of intoxication that manifests as a result of a given dose. Smoking in a new, interesting area, one that has less innate comfort, will likely increase the intoxication gained from an equivalent dose in a familiar setting.

2) Switch strains. I am not sure whether this will actually decrease your tollerance to the active chemicals in cannabis, but it will alter the ratio at which they are present and thus change the nature of the high, making it more novel.

Depending on the differences between strains, specifically the ratios of their active ingredients, this could theoretically achieve a decreased down regulation of certain receptors. For example, smoking a strain with high CB1 affinity will likely cause a tolerance via downregulation to CB1 receptors, though perhaps not as significantly to CB2. Thus, switching to a strain that has opposite effects (high CB2 affinity and lower CB1), one could theoretically trade tolerances, so to speak.

3) Switch consumption methods - perhaps try oral consumption. Again I am not sure whether this actually decreases your physical tollerance but it changes the nature of the intoxication and can make you feel "more high".

I have to recommend against this in any attempt to keep tolerance down. Prolonged exposure to cannabinoids via oral consumption is more likely to result in long-term tolerance from down-regulation, while single smoke sessions usually result in a shorter tolerance that is the result of a different mechanism. This shorter tolerance dissipates relatively quickly, while tolerance gained from prolonged exposure (downregulation) will most likely result in a long-term, slowly receding tolerance.

If you are prepared to decrease consumption levels then I suggest you drop smoking on several days of the week - give yourself 2-3 days on and 2-3 days off. It is surprising how quickly physical tollerance to cannabis can diminish if use is ceased - in roughly 5-7 most physical tolerance will be gone.

This is probably the best advice of all. A single 48 hour cessation of smoking will most definitely result in a significantly decreased tolerance. Tell your friend to take a day off, or a week off for that matter. When swiy returns they will be happily surprised and tolerance free (mostly).

In regards to smoking less-quality bud: this will theoretically work, but why not smoke less of the same flowers? For instance, when packing a bowl, take a little bit out. When rolling a joint, cut a bit of the paper off to make it shorter and hold less cannabis. This way, there is a decrease in both cannabinoid and carcinogen/tar content, while if one just lowers the quality of their smoke, they will be inhaling the same amount of harmful components, with less THC.

For more information on tolerance and the mechanisms responsible for it, please see the 'dangers of cannabis' section in the Cannabis article in the DrugsWiki section here: http://www.drugs-wiki.com/forum/show...rs_of_Cannabis

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Useful info - thanks

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Smoke less often yup.Very simple and straightforward answer to this problem.Ofcourse swim finds the desire to smoke daily is difficult to control.Now that suboxone has taken away swims favorite pleasure cannabis has became a very close friend of swims.But to make the experience worthwhile not smoking daily is important.

[t0m4m4ni4]

Your tolerance doesn't mean shit if you smoke bong. Keep ripping till you cant feel life.

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	Misleading information
	Wrong information, I do not agree

[anonuser30500]

Waking up and smoking is ok for a festival or something special, but its not good to take up as a daily habit. The tolerance will build up quickly that way. There is a roof on tolerance to cannabis. Very rarely will someone start to smoke ounces per week. Swim has only seen this with stimulant use and a rock and roll lifestyle.

If your Swiy stops smoking in the morning, your Swiy will be more alert, and give your body and mind time to get level again. THC remains in the system for longer than you feel 'high' but if you smoke before sleep and wake up and smoke, your getting no time to straighten up. This depreciates the actual high which in your case is in intervals which top up your high.

Try not smoking till the sun goes down, or maybe after 5-6pm. Your Swiy will likely feel higher smoking one third less than the daily intake in the evening rather than all day long.

[JackARoe]

Originally Posted by anonuser30500

but if you smoke before sleep and wake up and smoke, your getting no time to straighten up. This depreciates the actual high which in your case is in intervals which top up your high.

Good point. The good part about smoking is going from A to B. One is at work during the day and not smoking one is staying in A. Then one comes home from work and smokes and goes from A to B and it is called "High". If one stays in B all day long one forgets what going from A to B is like. There is no where to go as one is already there. Returning to baseline is important for take offs later on.

Moderation is the ......... key......

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very good explanation, moderation is generally the key.

[Enlightenment]

Moderation is totally key. but in event that you can't keep the amount that you smoke a day under control, try taking a week or two off every so often. 6 months is a long time to take off, but SWIM has found that taking "tolerance breaks" for about a week or two to cleanse the system slightly is both healthy, and keeps the tolerance lowered. and 1-2 weeks every 2 months or so is a lot easier than doing a 6 month cold turkey routine

[g666d]

Slightly off topic, but swim remembers his DARE educators telling us heavy use reduced tolerance, they were full of BS though...

[jeepack]

Swim has been a long adept of the week or two break... but is starting to find it inefective because the one week break will bring the tolerance down, but then the tolerance would go back up only in a day or two, making this impracticle....

The best advice I found on this post is:

the A-B one... You need to go back to A often to remember what it feels like to go to B... I would add to that that A is really obtained after a couple of days since cannabis remains in the system for about 72 hours

and the "not smoking daily is the key"

This is very true, and something swim has to start doing. I think there is a good explanation for this being better than taking week long breaks and then toking up daily... Weed is hard on your liver and it is of interest to make sure it doesn`t affect our appetite too much (I think)

I would definatly support not smoking daily, and since the week has 7 days in it, I would also support taking 2 day breaks at least once a week to not fall into a rigorous half off half on habit. 3 days of the week would sound good I think. The reason for the 2 day break is that this way, you are sure to have at least one day every week where you can eat 3 meals with a normal appetite (that would be the 2nd day of the 2 day break)