hcl gas generator & is need ph test?

[omid_safari]

swim use a hcl gas generator and bubble in meth base + np-solvent without water.
is it possible , more hcl react with meth when crystals are forming?
why when using aqueous hcl test ph is needed?
when use hcl gas , ph is correct automaticly?

[Eldorhan]

Depends. Ph means hydrogen potential (potentiel hydrogène*fr). Less hydrogen = more acidic.

[Beanfondler]

Its hard to overgas, but one would be covering their bases if they were to do so intentionally. Then rid any excess HCl from the resulting MA extract with a ice cold - bone dry acetone wash.

What is Swiy's intended source of the HCl gas?

[omid_safari]

source is sulfuric acid + nacl

[Beanfondler]

The resulting HCl will not be as dry as one would want. Does Swiy not have access to calcium chloride CaCl (Damprid or equivelant)? The combination of muriatic acid and calcium chloride will produce a much more useful result.

[omid_safari]

swim has sulfuric acid 99% [MERK]

he bought chloridric acid 37% [MERK]

which is your choice for HCL generator?

[Eldorhan]

Originally Posted by omid_safari

swim has sulfuric acid 99% [MERK]

I think "SWIM" is bullshitting. 99% H2SO4 isn't available to anything less than regulated research factories / level 2 biolabs.

At least in europe, but i still think it's BS.

[Beanfondler]

CaCl and muriatic still.

[piuiher]

you can use sulfuric acid and Hcl and just add a drying chamber ( tube ) into the system. There is some good info on Rhodium about Hcl gas generation

[Beanfondler]

Thats always a possibility, but Swibf can't see why anyone would go for sulfuric acid when CaCl is a thousand times easier to source.

Reputation Comments on this post:

even though the other guy may not know what he has, he gave the best anwser without burning nice guy and helpful

[Panthers007]

Concentrated H2SO4 is around 96 - 98%. One can get Fuming Sulfuric Acid as well, but that's unnecessary for HCl generation. It works fine for this task. A drying tube is always a good idea - or bubbling the HCl generated through more concentrated H2SO4.

It is easy to overdo the addition of HCl to many molecules one is trying to salt-out. A good way to prevent this is to saturate cold, anhydrous diethyl ether with HCl and add this dropwise to the solution of the basic amine.

[Chefko]

Take a 1l platik bottle,fill it half with calcium chlorid then add muriatic acid,tube
into the methfreebase and let bubble for 30 seconds,would be the easiest way,right?

[gixxerman]

swim is trying to make sense of it all, do u put calcium chlor wiv muriatic to get hydrogen gas?

[grandom5644]

Swim has found that the best way with the least amount of H2O and least amount of leaking is a juice container with a snap on lid x2, fish tank air pump, plastic tubing for fish tank, and if possible glass tubes that fit plastic. in the top of the first juice container drill two holes. Insert plastic tubing into both descending about 2" into bottle. Seal the screw on lid as well as the two drill holes as best you can to make them as airtight as possible by whatever means you can. I prefer hot glue and electric tape. Run one of the tubes to the air pump. Perform the same procedure on the second juice container, but in one drilled hole, place the glass tube to within 1/2" from the bottom. In the second, place the plastic tubing once again descending into bottle about 2", extending 2 - 4', place glass tubing at opposite end. In first container, using funnel through the snap on lid, place your dry reactant (rock salt, etc.). In second container using CLEAN funnel, fill to 1.5" with Liquid Fire. Turn on pump. Using turkey baster/large dropper, etc. drip Liquid Fire onto solid reactant in first container (use sparingly, a little goes a long way). Occasionally shake bottle side to side to avoid having to use too much acid. May take a moment for gas to go through both containers, but this is the best method SWIM has found for this. From SWIM's experience, other methods can release too much gas, the gas produced isnt dry, the acid can fly out causing damage to clothes/surroundings/self. A room full of HCL gas so thick you cant see 2 ft in front of you cannot be very fun IMO. SWIM said best way to aviod this is to follow above method and also get a HEPA filter which the final tube can be placed next to when finished since apparatus will still produce gas for a while. Good luck, be safe.