2 month binge

[Masa]

SWIM has been using Base 5 or 6 days a week out of the last 2 months
he has stopped now but
what SWIM was woundering was how addited ( if any ) was he
he feels sad cos life was more fun doing Base than it is off but he feels no withdrall simptoms to speak off

[old hippie 56]

Swim hit it lucky with out no major addiction problems. Count your blessings.

[sneaker.tweaker]

I know where SWIY is coming from. SWIM has used meth/amphetamine for 13 years now and the most time hes been off it ever is 6 months.

[Masa]

Thats SWIMs point , if SWIY can use for years and years SWIM 2 month bender is not really a problem , no ?

[ihavequestions]

someone correct swim if he's wrong. but he has frequently heard that amphetamines and cocaine have no real physical withdrawal symptoms. they manifest themselves psychologicaly. like depression, dysphoria, anziety, extremely intense craving etc.

but what from he knows he has heard from many that they dont have a physicaal dependence aspect to it.

[BlondieUK]

It depends on perspective.

Some people who only use say, once a month, if they did it every day for a week would consider themselves addicted.

But if you usually use it for months at a time, doing it for a few weeks is nothing.

Don't worry, if you've stopped and it's not a problem, then don't worry.

[cosmicruler]

"Methamphetamine addiction has three patterns: low intensity, binge, and high intensity. Low-intensity addiction describes a user who does not have psychological addiction to the meth but uses methamphetamine on a casual basis by swallowing or snorting it. Binge and high-intensity abusers have a psychological addiction to meth and prefer to smoke or inject methamphetamine to achieve a faster and stronger high. Binge abusers use methamphetamine more than individuals with low-intensity meth addiction but less than individuals with a high-intensity meth addiction.
Meth Withdrawal symptoms included but are not limited to:

• fatigue
• long, disturbed periods of sleep
• irritability
• intense hunger
• moderate to severe depression
• psychotic reactions
• anxiety

Meth withdrawal, length and severity of depression is related to how much and how often Meth was used. Withdrawal symptoms including, cravings, exhaustion, depression, mental confusion, restlessness, insomnia, deep or disturbed sleep, may last up to 48 hours. "

in swims experience prolonged use will cause prolonged withdrawal symptoms much greaterthan48 hours!!!swim smoked meth daily for 5 years and is now 1 year clean but suffered severe withdrawal symptoms and cravings for about 8 months and still suffers from exhaustion,depression,anxiety,insomnia etc etc etc!!!

METH IS ADDICTIVE!

[Masa]

No such thing as Meth in Scotland , yet
SWIM talking about Base Amp
SWIM guess it is all about perspective
if i told SWIMs Mum SWIM did Amp she would shit her brick and send SWIM to rehab
to a many year Amp vet then SWIMs habit is pretty tame

[BlondieUK]

Originally Posted by Masa

No such thing as Meth in Scotland , yet
SWIM talking about Base Amp
SWIM guess it is all about perspective
if i told SWIMs Mum SWIM did Amp she would shit her brick and send SWIM to rehab
to a many year Amp vet then SWIMs habit is pretty tame

Exactly, don't worry about it.

You're only addicted when you come off and realise you need more. The time to worry would be before you come off, if you've already done that and are clean.. well whats to worry about?

[cosmicruler]

Originally Posted by Masa

No such thing as Meth in Scotland , yet
SWIM talking about Base Amp
SWIM guess it is all about perspective
if i told SWIMs Mum SWIM did Amp she would shit her brick and send SWIM to rehab
to a many year Amp vet then SWIMs habit is pretty tame

why not??
its everywhere else in the world!
why hasnt it spread to UK etc??
Base is crap!

[cook_justakid]

swim believes that swiys feeling sad without base shows cravings, and perhaps a little depression? that swiy has been left with.
don't trick yourself into thinking swiy needs base in swiys life to have fun; it takes a while for the mind to recover from any binge/bender

swim has been doing base since swim was 16 (but swim has calmed the use down within recent months)
it's caused a LOT of problems and makes people nasty, paranoid, tweaking depressives whizzing their life away without a care until they need more base, or downers to take the edge off, then more addiction and aftermath

[Masa]

I don’t know if feeling sad shows cravings, life is more fun on drugs it’s as simple as that : )

[_drac_]

life is - to be precise- a lot more fun if you are sober. Either you will learn it from others or your personal experiences, but you will kid, when you grow up.

_drac_ added 1 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...

database researches shows that meth spread only in those regions where coke/crack is not reachable. UK is supplied pretty enough by Ireland with coke, so it should be the reason.

[Lobsang]

life is - to be precise- a lot more fun if you are sober. Either you will learn it from others or your personal experiences, but you will kid, when you grow up.

I am just curious if you believe that why you are here?

[humdroid]

SWIM unfortunately has a liking for this stuff, and has had similar times in the past, where SWIM has been on base more often than not.
This went on for months, and SWIM liked the trippy bit after the base wore off.
SWIM also ate well on base.
Base being what it is, though, chucked a couple of psychotic episodes SWIMS way, as SWIM got so absorbed in stuff SWIM forgot to eat or take supplements. It wasn't like SWIM felt "They were out to get him", as SWIM "knew" they were out to get him, bollocks of course, but thats psychotic paranoia for you.
SWIM got fed up of base, as his feet and ankles would balloon out.
SWIM does still struggle with those "I want a bomb" as SWIM hates the "Can't be arsed" feeling, which base masked.
Each day is a new day though, and each day SWIM beats base, he feels his ego get shinier, and as SWIM is an egocentric at heart, he likes the shiny ego.