Snorting adderall doesn't work

[julian]

Originally Posted by 100mg Methylphenidate

Either way, there ARE generic adderall XR out there

No, there isn't

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Originally Posted by julian

No, there isn't

Sorry. At the time I thought that adderall's extended release was just because of the mixed salts and the generic were extended release too. My bad.

[dark12]

According to Wikipedia, Adderall uses the Microtrol extended release drug delivery system:

It is used in certain medications like Adderall and incorporates two types of beads. The first dissolves immediately, releasing half of the medication, while the second type dissolves much more slowly releasing the remaining medication four hours later. Maximum plasma concentration is achieved in seven hours,compared to instant-release.

Crushing the beads will generally eliminate the time release mechanism.

[tryptamaster]

dude jsut crush em dam fine thats wat swim dos if its like flour as an above poster said it shud hit u fine.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Originally Posted by dark12

According to Wikipedia, Adderall uses the Microtrol extended release drug delivery system:


Crushing the beads will generally eliminate the time release mechanism.

Ah. Okay. I just had the impression the mixed amphetamines were there for a longer period of efficacy, but I guess it's just for smoother delivery. God damn ittttt, swim is fiending for some sort of stimulant at the moment

[kelcsaw]

If SWIM is snorting to hard... it will just enlongate the
high... you want the powder to line your nostrils

[dark12]

Originally Posted by kelcsaw

If SWIM is snorting to hard... it will just enlongate the
high... you want the powder to line your nostrils

hmm...
It should coat your nostrils? How high up your nose should it begin to stick? SWIM usually puts the straw pretty far up his nose when he snorts so the powder bypasses pretty much his entire lower nostril. Is this wrong?

[dark12]

eep.
Best of luck to SWIy.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Swim can only get 20mg Adderall(sometimes XR) once a month usually...and it's usually only 10-20 pills/capsules that he goes through within a few days. He needs to find a meth contact. Although he can get cocaine, it seems like a waste of money and his product would probably be far from pure =/

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Well. Swiy shouldn't snort it to the point where the whole pill just becomes the 'drip,' if that's what you mean. Swim doesn't generally snort them anymore, because the comedown from it is a lot worse and the effects aren't much stronger. But he always tried to just coat the inside of his nose. I'm not exactly sure how far up the mucous membranes go. If swiy snorts them all the way up his nose, they'd just land in the nasal cavity, so I'd think there are mucous membranes up there to absorb it. Again, anatomy isn't my thing.

[asplinteredfawn]

It really doesn't matter nose or mouth except the sinus cavity has quickly reached mucus membranes. Think about the pathway your' nose travels to your lungs or same region as the gateway to the stomach. SWIM has noticed that neither the Generic Adderall or the MAL or BAR Labs Dexedrine/Dextrostat capsuls/tablets work the same for them. The white 10mg diamond Mallies are of a softer consistency and they are easier for the stomach to digest and be absorbed once it's passed through. But the BARR labs tablets are harder and I'm sure the inactive/binders and fillers can alter the chemical ratio in the blood. Peak plasma levels have been tested and found to be different between different generics. SWIM hasn't taken very much name brand Adderall recently. But he used to get the shire orange 30mgs and 20mgs. Back then Shire was great, I don't know what your SWIM is getting, or if it's been different each time. If he/she barely felt anything, yet... something, reguardless. Then it may be the fact it's a mixed Levo-Dextro-Amphetamine Sulfate, with a left/levo isomer of amphetamine, in both a Saccharate, and Aspertate. So only 1/4< is any good in my opinion. I know that most people can't tell, for most types of archytipical neruochemistry character types in this world, both just seem to work fine. Even the polymer in the Spanculs can cause them to become less active, also it drasticly spread out it's half-life, from consumption time. Maybe you're the same way? Your swim could try Vavaysne, or Dexedrine/Dextrostat if your psyche doc will prescribe them. Vavaysne is now a more popular medication. It's as Concerta, is to Methylphenidate; is Vavysne, is to Dextrostat. A Dextro-Amphetamine pro-drug, I'm sure you've seen it referenced, I'm not trying to act like it's super, duper new. SWIM prefers good, old white light: dexedrine/dextro-stat ( I think Preluden was the action back then. ). To bad a new equally racemic d,l-Amphetamine doesn't look like it would ever come back out. Thats like wishing for Placidyl.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

I wouldn't concsider concerta to ritalin anything like vavysne to dexedrine/dextrostat. Concerta is just extended release methylphenidate. Vavysne is much less potent than regular amphetamine due to it's specific design =[ Swim hopes docotrs don't force him to stay on that shit when he goes in. He wants nothing but dexedrine/adderall.

[eche05]

Adderall XR is composed of water soluble hydrochloric amphetamine salts, both dextro- and levo- and is thus snortable. The only way intranasal (snorting) ingestion of adderall XR would not work was your inadequate crushing of the extended release polymer-bound beads.

Crush them better. 'Someone who isn't me' usually puts them in a plastic bag an pulverizes it with a hard, flat object.

[cobetcknncoio3]

SWIM knows from experience that snorting crushed adderall xr, if it's ground finely enough, works just as well as snorting crushed adderall quick release. since the xr coating is also ground up and seperated from the amphetamine, it no longer serves its time-release purpose. it does not change the effects in any way, but just snorted as an inert powder along with the amphetamine. but, as everyone probably knows, grinding up those damn beads can be a real pain in the ass, but if ground and snorted with the right technique, works like a charm.

[Boca Bitch]

Originally Posted by rajkamkumar

hmmm is adderall more similar to meth or coke?

Adderall, containing amphetamine salts is much closer both pharmaceutically and psychologically (by effects) to methamphetamine than cocaine.

To the OP:
While SWIM does not suggest snorting, the problem is most definitely the size of the substance that's interfering with SWIY's getting high. When a powdered substance is railed, it needs to be small enough to attach and be absorbed by the mucous membranes; if it's too large (such as the little balls inside Rx Adderall), it will be ingested, eventually ending up in the stomach.

May SWIM suggest crushing the little balls in between two spoons? :P

[kylej608]

SWIM has found that dumping out the beads into a pile and pressing hard and rolling over with a round glass cup is a very effective way to crush up the xr into a fine powder, as well as any other pills Swim also said to keep scraping all the powder/beads into a pile and going over it again until u hear no more crunching of the xr beads

[eche05]

The suger(y) taste of adderall is from the dextoamphetamine saccarhide. If someone who isn't you is seeking an alternative to ADD perscribed amphetamines, there's always phenylpropanolamine (in alot of diet pills). Molecularly, phenylpropanolamine is to ephedrine, just as amphetamine is to methamphetamine.

[dr. swim]

Swim might be an unusual case but swim feels nothing whatsover via any route until he passes ~80mgs. Possibly due to the slower dissociation of the saccharate and aspartate salts but swim has his doubts. After this 80-100 mg baseline dose is in swim's system, very small amounts of insufflated adderall are quite noticeable. Swim would estimate 20 mg insufflated=60 mg oral after reaching this state. After 100~ or so insufflation is much more efficient and bioavailable in Swim's opinion.

That sounds as if you might have an enzyme in your system that can inhibit up to 80mg.

[missmolly2808]

SWIM snorted one xr today for the first time in a very long time. Swim would rather swallow them can't stand snorting any kind of pills. Swim doesn't even know what prompted her to do this today. Made her remember why it's been so long. Swim benefits much more from swallowing(so does her boyfriend!!! HAHAHA) sorry! Anyway, yeah swim takes 90 to 120 mg of xr per day and loves EVERY minute of it.

[dr. swim]

SWIM snorted one xr today for the first time in a very long time. Swim would rather swallow them can't stand snorting any kind of pills. Swim doesn't even know what prompted her to do this today. Made her remember why it's been so long. Swim benefits much more from swallowing(so does her boyfriend!!! HAHAHA) sorry! Anyway, yeah swim takes 90 to 120 mg of xr per day and loves EVERY minute of it.

Isn't that a bit high for a daily dose?

[missmolly2808]

Actually, not really. SWIM has bee prescribed adderall for quite some time now. The actaul prescription is for 90 mg a day, but SWIM ust takes an extra 30 once in a while for shits and giggles. Although, SWIM seems much happier these days and doesn't seem to need anything extra to make her happy......this is a very good thing for SWIM. No more extra addys for now.

[SkitchSkitch]

A person with ADHD, or with similar ADHD symptoms will generally be calm after taking an amphetamine. So meaning If swiy are some little kid bouncing off the walls, chronically masturbating and abusing the house pet all at the same time, & shouldnt be on the computer because swiy's mommy grounded swiy for blowing up a hamster's butthole with a firecracker, then swiy probably has ADHD and doesn't get to have fun with this drug. Sorry. :P

A person with ADD will become alert, more energetic, generally more social, and more focused after taking an amphetamine. Those of course are the positive effects. Negatives(increase with dosage, to an extent): palpitating heart, sweaty palms, dehydration(dry eye, chapped lips, cotton mouth, unusually rough hands, slightly raspier voice, factor in headaches, etc), short lasting mild to moderate headaches, paranoia, mild to rapid weight loss, irritability, twitches, crank bugs(sensation that theres bugs beneath your skin), temporary "spotting vision", and muscle tension.
(Swim isnt saying that it's bad, just make sure swiy has a buddy to do it with. Otherwise in swims opinion, that's a waste of a high.


A person("normal") without bi-polar disease or a true mental disease like schizophrenia will generally have similar effects, but can often times be more extreme.


Now, with dosage, 30mg line off the bat is just silly. There is an extent, a buzz kill, a "wall" to where the body simply isnt going to accept the amphetamines anymore and attempt to flush and continue with regular activity until the drug hits it's half life. That's why the pills have little balls, they're time released to last longer in the body.

Start with a small 6 mg bump(make sure you use a mortar and pestle..easiest way to crush the balls), wait a few minutes until you feel it a bit, and increase steadily waiting at least 3 mins before doing another bump/line, doing 7mg 8mg & 9mg or so. when swiy get to a point where swiy feels good enough, GO PARTY!!!!! Don't forget to keep a plateau going, because coming down on this drug is TOUGH, especially when you dont eat, which you rarely want to. =D this is hardly a lazy drug. Go have fun!!


Luckily, the body usually also gains a "wall" tolerance, where it takes more and more eventually for the body to hit that buzz kill. knowing where it is, is important if swiy's wanting to get "fucked up"(which is hardly a good term, this isnt a downer that leaves swiy slurring their words and falling over shit, it's the opposite.)

Unfortunately swiys tolerance to the drug itself will catch up, so swiy should use wisely.

[angelofsd]

snorting 20mg xr definintely does something...swim is careful to break it down into powder form.....as an objective observer i'd say the effects are similar to a weak coke rush.

[XanderCrews]

crushing xrs works if theyre properly crushed, which can be tough if u dont have the right gear. the come down is much worse though, but swim thinks that the shorter, more intense experience is better than the long waves of stimulation. but swim is a downer guy 100 percent, he just does uppers when hes bored. swim hates the comedown and naseua, give him some suboxone or any painkiller and hes set.