Why is LSD not around enough?

[dodi]

SWIM thinks its like everybody's job to make a ton of LSD, if you have the knowledge then use it!

SWIM hopes many good fellows will spread the joy, and try to recreate the "dead fest experience"

Everyone needs to experience LSD again in order for it to be fully excepted.

The world needs change, they need LSD to bring change

Certain extremely large events copious amounts of LSD need to be available.

this is like a global outcry. EVERYBODY FOCUS ON MAKING LSD AND DISTRIBUTING FOR CHEAP/FREE AT LARGE EVENTS THIS SPRING/SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shadowlord]

SWIM couldn't agree more. It is needed now more than ever but is so hard to find.
When it is found it isn't as strong and pure as could be and makes it hard to figure the proper dosage for what one is seeking. People able to make it need to but I understand the fear of persecution.
If there is no source of LSD then one should look into extracting mescaline. That process requires much less equipment and knowledge and there are legal sources of cacti to extract from. SWIM plans on becoming very proficient in this process just in case our favorite molecule slips beyond my reach.
As for now, just waiting to hear from the Right People.

[Beanfondler]

LSD doesn't have the debilitating addictive component and will not be supplied to the public by the CIA. Swibfs heard the world's source of LSD tends to be supplied by a handful of individuals. Which seems likely given the difficult synthesis and micro doses.

[dodi]

Screw the CIA, swims talking about the underground making that drug they all care and love for and spreading the word. Convince people they should trip everyday change there opinion. Trip by yourself and show him how much fun triping is. THats what happend with rolls around here. Swim had so much fun everybody tagged along and before swim could eat another roll they realized they sold out.

[psyche]

Yes, and easy transportability and hard detectability. But as far as I know, the manufacturer of the LSD doesn't need the skills of a chem-wizard, just the skills of a decent and experienced chemist.

[Beanfondler]

It does however require the availability of not easily acquired chems. The relative synthesis is a world apart from the more marketed substances and it doesn't even have the insatiable addictive economical motivation.

[dodi]

Regarding the synthesis of LSD... there just needs to be a movie, simply an undeniably ez video everybody can now make LSD from. .. there are cultivation videos on youtube why not lsd synthesis videos.

Students in colleges need to be able to find out the simplest way of ordering the most farthest along chemical to make lsd. IE ... a chemical that is one process away from being pure LSD. the step it takes to make lsd needs to be completely understandable. if there isn't a reliable source for this chemical, somebody needs to make oneeeeeeee

[aerozeppelin123]

Originally Posted by dodi

Regarding the synthesis of LSD... there just needs to be a movie, simply an undeniably ez video everybody can now make LSD from. .. there are cultivation videos on youtube why not lsd synthesis videos.

Students in colleges need to be able to find out the simplest way of ordering the most farthest along chemical to make lsd. IE ... a chemical that is one process away from being pure LSD. the step it takes to make lsd needs to be completely understandable. if there isn't a reliable source for this chemical, somebody needs to make oneeeeeeee

Hmm there's really no such thing as an easy way of synthesising LSD, I think you underestimate the skill involved. A degree in chemistry would be the absolute minimum, something that very few people have. And there's no chemical even close to LSD that's legally or easily available as far as I know, so you need an experienced chemist that can go through a number of stages to get to the final product. Add to that the relatively small profit available compared to drugs like coke and ecstasy, and for most people there's little incentive. I think LSD chemists are not usually in it for the money though, probably more likely to be enthusiasts wanting to make it available to those who want to experience it...would be cool though if it was easier to get

[Panthers007]

If the synthesis of LSD25 were as simple as the idiots selling E-Z Acid recipes contend, the world would be awash in the stuff. As a chemist who has dissected every synthesis out there - from Sandoz Labs original in German (Hoffman, et al), to recent theoretical applications - I can tell you it is a very difficult and drawn out work requiring excellent skills and knowledge not found in a film or sold on the internet by some shyster.

"Dude! You can make acid from oak leaves, dude! I got the recipe from Jerry Garcia's website, dude! Only cost, like, five bucks, man!" - actual "conversation" with a kid with stars in his eyes.

[dodi]

<< SWIM can't wait 2 years for a chem degree to be able to do the synthesis of just one specific analogue, this just can't be necessary! SWIM wants LSD available easier then pot so there determined to fix this worlds lsd supply even it has to be 2 years from now

swim's on the mission, it's already begun! ------------

swim's goal is to flood every festival with over a billion doses per festival.

[Beanfondler]

An alchemy certification from the local community college won't guarantee swiy LSD.

[dodi]

^^^^ Who said alchemy certification or community college????

< taking the same classes if not more and more up to date classes than shulgin did at USF.

[Beanfondler]

Swibf's most sincere apologies. That business about the 30-Minute "Buns of Steel" or insta-LSD magic synth video threw him off.

[aerozeppelin123]

Originally Posted by dodi

<< SWIM can't wait 2 years for a chem degree to be able to do the synthesis of just one specific analogue, this just can't be necessary! SWIM wants LSD available easier then pot so there determined to fix this worlds lsd supply even it has to be 2 years from now

swim's on the mission, it's already begun! ------------

swim's goal is to flood every festival with over a billion doses per festival.

Honestly mate if it was that easy everyone would be doing it and it would be everywhere. I'm no chemistry expert but from what I can tell LSD is a very difficult compound to synthesise and you WOULD need to study chemistry for a good number of years before you would even have a chance of doing it, even then it's highly susceptible to mistakes. This is of course after you've somehow got a hold of a number of heavily watched precursors. If you think you've got what it takes then that would be great but IMO it's something best left to the experts. Not trying to be negative it's just I think you've gotta be realistic about these things

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by dodi

EVERYBODY FOCUS ON MAKING LSD AND DISTRIBUTING FOR CHEAP/FREE AT LARGE EVENTS THIS SPRING/SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neither DF nor its members openly condone, support, or encourage the production or consumption of illicit substances such as LSD.

As to where the LSD has disappeared to, see the following thread and use the search engine to answer questions when possible: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24132

[Kage2021]

Low profitability? HAHAHAHA ahhh ohhhh HAHAHAHAHHA. If 1g of crystal = 100,000 doses, do you think it costs $100,000 to produce? To get an idea of the proft margin, take an average price and multiply by 100,000 just for 1g. It's in the states, just exceptionally low quantities. The problem is those who control the market suck at their jobs because generally, they aren't super concerned about money.