First Time. A Few Questions.

[Lucid_Dreamer]

SWIM searched and could not find the answers he was looking for.

SWIM just picked up 4 Orange LV Ecstasy pills that seem to be very popular in Denmark.

Picture of the rolls from Denmark:
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The rolls SWIM picked up look exactly like these. Same color, same exact logo, same exact beveled edges on top and bottom, same exact size, smooth, very professional press. BTW, SWIm reports that these rolls are very small and is wondering if rolls this small can contain 100mg+ of MDMA.

Here is a picture of SWIM's roll:


Would you say SWIM has the same ones? Since it is kind of hard to duplicate another roll made by someone else and make it the exact same quality. SWm can say that the E was given to him by a friend from the Berkley area of Northern California.

Anyways....

SWIM has never tried E before, but has experience with other drugs such as Marijuana, DXM, Opiates, and Salvia.

SWIM is planning on trying E his first time alone. He wants to get a real feel for the drug without any type of distractions.

Questions:
SWIM has heard that is bad to roll alone ie: Not as fun
Is this true?

SWIM would also like to know what are some good activities to do while on E...He has TV, movies, marijuana , computer, and music.
What would you suggest?

SWIM would also like to know how long will he feel shitty after the roll.....Assuming the pills are pure MDMA with only binders.

And last but not least, SWIM would like to know how long can he wait before rolling again? If these rolls are legit, he would like to take one again this coming weekend. Would 2-3 days be long enough for his seretonin to be replaced and would he be able to roll like his first time?

SWIM will appreciate all of your comments and suggestions.

Thanks
-SWIL_D

[chinpokomaster]

2 pills that look the same can be different. If you're unsure, get a testing kit.

Yes, doing it alone is a hundred times worse, you'll find yourself ringing people up to talk to them and stuff and you'll probably be really on edge and excited, so being by yourself on it sucks.

Anything you try to do whilst on it will seem mundane and you'll probably just spend the whole time talking anyway if you're with someone.

SWIY will feel a weariness and emptiness that takes the next day to gradually get over.

SWIM has used the drug 3 or 4 nights running and whilst he doesn't recommend this, would point out that 3 days should be ample time for serotonin to be recharged to an enjoyable level.

[Lettish]

Two identical-looking pills can contain completely different substance.

Swim advises do not roll on your own.

Swim advises do your first pill in a club (if you're into that kind of scene). That's the only time Swim would ever take pills.

The comedown generally lasts a couple of days but really it is not as bad is some people say it is. Just eat healthy, drink plenty of water, relax.

It is advised to wait at least a month or two before your next roll. Swiy can still consume ecstasy 2-3 days afterwards but Swim believes the second roll will be no where near as good as the first. Take into consideration the strain on the body and the toxicity of ecstasy.

Swim also advises - enjoy it! Swim wishes he could have his first time, every time!

[Panthers007]

If one simply adheres to conventional dosage recommendations, and not stupid kids who say to "take 5 - they're small", the after-effects last about one day. After a good night's sleep one is fine.

MDMA itself is not really toxic. It can feel it is if one takes too much. Always look for pure powder/crystal. Pills are unpredictable and may contain things that ARE toxic.

Caveat Emptor.

[Lucid_Dreamer]

Well, SWIM is still decided on doing it alone. He has tried looking for someone to do it with, or somewhere to go and do it.

But answer SWIM this one question....If he does it alone, will it still be fun?

SWIM thinks that if he does it alone he will get the feel for it, figure out what he can and cannot do while rolling, then do it in a public setting and have fun where he will have much more fun than he did whilst being alone.

[chinpokomaster]

Originally Posted by Lucid_Dreamer

But answer SWIM this one question....If he does it alone, will it still be fun?

Short answer? No.

It will be extremely frustrating.

[RaverHippie]

It will be a drastically different experience alone than with people. Even if SWIY tried it out alone it wouldn't prepare him so much when he was around people he cared about or in a fun happy club environment. The Setting would influence the trip that drastically. This is a very therapeutic drug. It causes one to seek out interaction with other people. It's better to have people with whom SWIY can interact already around instead of incoherently finding them as SWIY is peaking on the most intense psychedelic episode SWIY has had so far. SWIY will end up calling or instant messaging anyone SWIY can find in order to have some meaningful conversation with anyone...who knows what trouble that drive for interaction could cause.

Also the one month in between dosing is heavily recommended by my friends as well.

[Lucid_Dreamer]

Care to elaborate?

[Panthers007]

That's simply not true. Many people have the best time using MDMA (and other drugs in this class) while by themselves. Being alone gives one a chance to explore themselves deeper without distractions such as thumping techno beats or their friends chattering away like squirrels in a tree.

Each has it's place - alone or socially. But to say that alone is awful is ridiculous.

[chinpokomaster]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

That's simply not true. Many people have the best time using MDMA (and other drugs in this class) while by themselves. Being alone gives one a chance to explore themselves deeper without distractions such as thumping techno beats or their friends chattering away like squirrels in a tree.

Each has it's place - alone or socially. But to say that alone is awful is ridiculous.

Obviously I'm just relaying SWIM's opinion. In his opinion, it's a waste of MDMA.

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

That's simply not true. Many people have the best time using MDMA (and other drugs in this class) while by themselves. Being alone gives one a chance to explore themselves deeper without distractions such as thumping techno beats or their friends chattering away like squirrels in a tree.

Each has it's place - alone or socially. But to say that alone is awful is ridiculous.

In SWIM's experience this self-exploration usually arises out of conversations with others. Usually it takes an outside force to guide the user through the process to aid in confirmation of thoughts and support for conclusions.

That's the recommendation against being alone. Many friends have messaged me frantically needing someone to talk to in just this situation.

[BrainMelt]

Swim took E twice by himself. The first one was an amazing experience and he had no need to call anyone but just relaxed by himself listening to music and feeling great. The second time swim took some different pills and was not enjoying it alone, and began calling all his friends. I guess it kinda depends whats in the pills.......or it could just be the state of mind swiy finds himself in. Swim would recommend taking it at a really good club with friends for the first time though.

[Lucid_Dreamer]

Well..>SWIm started off the day by eating a half 1/8 of shrooms and frying his ever loving braisn out for 5 hours and then he dropped an e bomb.

He is feeling amazing right now.

More to come too..

He just bought a 1/4 of weed.

[pinkandfluffy]

Definately do it with your best friends, a mix of ladies and gents.

Swim would suggest doing more than one pill, but obviously its impossible to say what strength it will be.

lots of music! lots of dancing!

and something nice for the comedown

Different people ahve different comedowns, swims first few times he felt fine

[notts.pirate]

SWIM wouldnt advise doing E the first time alone but after a few nights rolling try it alone, it really opens your mind up, SWIM loves coming home from work, getting a crate of stella and a bag of pills, wacking some hardcore on and rolling alone

[Lucid_Dreamer]

Haha....Tonight, SWIM plans on going to a concert and dropping 1.5 rolls.

Should be fun. If he can get some of his friends to go too

[anony]

what's swim's conclusion?

[hex]

Tell swim to wait a couple more days before dropping again. Last day he dropped was on 24, today is 26.. wait at least a week.

hex added 6 Minutes and 25 Seconds later...

edit: todays is 28 is guess im a bit lost :S, anyway I recommend him to wait a few more days

[Lucid_Dreamer]

SWIM didn't go to the show or eat the rolls. But tonight he is doing a repeat of what he did before. Hippieflipping! Yay

He plans to eat 1.75g's of shrooms (really potenet shrooms too), wait a couple hours until the shrooms REALLY get going, and then dropping 1.5 rolls.