codeine is harmless, isn't it?

[thenomad08]

Pure codeine sulphate?

[Panthers007]

Codeine(methylmorphine) is a naturally occurring narcotic opiate closely related to such animals as morphine and heroin. Taken in excess for a prolonged period of time (a few weeks can do it), codeine will produce physical addiction complete with withdrawl symptoms similar to those of morphine - though generally less severe. Used as prescribed by a doctor, the chance of addiction is low. Though dependence on it's euphoric effects may be a problem for many people.

So no it is not harmless. It is an addictive narcotic. Taken without a tolerance to narcotics, as little as 1gm can kill a person.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

lol an opiate "harmless".

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[chinpokomaster]

This is what happens when you put a drug on the shelf in a nanny state.

No, it's not harmless and neither is paracetemol, ibuprofen or aspirin. So if you have a pain, then don't eat the whole pack.

[sl1p609]

swim is doing a 1.2 g a day...

last all day too if you break it into quarters...

and yes swim has to prepare the solution of methylmorphine

Swim does like 100mg of Mophine Sulfate and if swim does about 1g of methylmorphine

Nooodzzz Nodddzzzz get u to that stage

have a good one ,

[Panthers007]

I reiterate: As little as 1 gram of codeine (sulfate or phosphate usually) constitutes a lethal dose for those who do not have a tolerance to narcotics.

In case of overdose, nalline or naloxone are antidotal. Several injections will be required and must be done by a qualified physician.

[sl1p609]

what about if swim HAS HIG TOLERENCE

would it take 4x or is it then not possible to OD ( OPIATE TOLERENET )

just putting it out there. thanks

[Orchid_Suspiria]

It would probably take a large amount.Swim can hardly feel codeine anymore.

[sl1p609]

thank you, after swim went through opiate training ...

only 400mgs or higher would do any good... i use for WD, methylmorphine

as natural as ???/ can be

[Ale]

Originally Posted by Panthers007

[..]So no it is not harmless. It is an addictive narcotic. Taken without a tolerance to narcotics, as little as 1gm can kill a person.

What's a gm?If you mean one gram(gr.) of Codeine..I really can't see how can you call it a "little" amount ..that's more like a massive one

Ale added 8 Minutes and 33 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by sl1p609

thank you, after swim went through opiate training ...

only 400mgs or higher would do any good... i use for WD, methylmorphine

as natural as ???/ can be

Oh yeah and anyway ..referring to that^^I don't see how takin more than 400mg(right about the ceiling dosage) would do any better than lower doses..basically just a waste.

[ihavequestions]

SWIM mothers side of the family is all allergic to codeine. rashes, severe headaches and hallucinations are the common reactions.

however SWIM would like to know if he could still take hydrocodone. now of course hyrdocodone is an anologue of codeine however swim has read that most people who have bad reactions to codeine are often able to handle hydrocodone with no ill effects.

the only opiate SWIM has experimented with is percocet reacted perfectly. not even nausea, constipation, or urniary retention. ans wim would like to know if he could maybe try hydrocodone.

what do SWIY think?

[Panthers007]

There is no way of telling this side of running a full genetic workup - and then speculating. A good doctor would start SWIM very low to be on the safe side in case an allergic reaction does take place.

[sl1p609]

Thanks yes Swim should of used.. ( gr)

My pet lab rat is currently using 300mgs 4x times a day..
4 hour periods

until this OTC flu season is over
swim feels its a waste without any real opioids

[Solinari]

I thought this question would be related to toxic effects of codeine on the organs or parts of the body. Of course any opioid has addiction potential and that in itself is harmful, but as to the toxic effects of codeine, i couldn't say, that's why i opened this thread, to see if there are any (apart from allergic reactions).

[chinpokomaster]

Not sure if this will help.

[JJx23]

Codeine is a less addictive narcotic pain killer\cough suppressant, so SWIM would need to take higher doses of the drug in order to even feel mild effects IMO, but then again, there are people who are very opiate naive, so it might effect them differently. I DO NOT recommend taking high doses of any drug, as they all have dangerous side effects that can even be fatal to SWIM. I know Codeine is very easy to get, but I wouldn't risk one's life to receive a mild effect such as euphoria, sedation, etc.. Just not worth it in my opinion. I am on Percocet 10 MG, and it's in a totally different class than Codeine, a lot more potent, but I have a condition that requires this drug. Obviously many of you are only looking to get high off of this drugs, which is wrong IMO, but I just wouldn't overdose on Codeine, think twice or even three times before you even try doing something like this. I am concerned, very concerned.

Hope this helps.

[MW]

I also have a condition that calls for codeine usage, i mean i could probably do without, but i enjoy it and it does help. Luckily i don't have a dependency and my tolerance is very naturally high.

[0utrider]

swim would say codeine is anything but harmless. just the fact that it can induce anxiety is quite a lot for SWIM besides the addiction and the potential to ruin SWIMs social life

[RoboCodeine7610]

SWIM doesn't think it's "harmless" but he does think that it's not nearly as dangerous as other stronger opiates.
But what SWIM is more concerned about is if SWIY is using the CWE method for his codeine consumption, since one single mistake could cost SWIY his liver...
If not, then the only things SWIY should be concerned about is tolerance/addiction and having a rest between doses instead of increasing the dose to achieve the same effects...SWIY should be very careful about that.

[cra$h]

swim has found that continuous opiate use can make swim cold and frail, and very irritable