Diazepam + Ket

[Masa]

Swim was thinking dropping one pill then having a .100 line of Kay
any done this combo b4 ?
was hoping it would give deeper Kay-Holes

[enquirewithin]

Diazepam is usually taken to stop the effects of ketamine. More likely to give deep sleep. A very deep 'K-hole' = unconsciousness.

[AncientAbner]

I agree. They experience of a K Hole might be horrifying.
Diazepam is the chill pill that will take the edge off.

AH

[PoppyHappy]

Ketamine alone will not greatly reduce respitatory function, which is why it is a reliable Anaesthetic. Mixing Ketamine with diazepam or other benzodiazepines could reduce respiration to a dangerous level. t wouldn't make the K hole better, it would probably cloud the experience. It would also make it a lot harder to recall as well.

[Niteflights]

Certain brands of ket are premixed with Diazepam in order to *prevent* the emergence response. The emergence response is the effect you are looking for with K. Don't waste the ket this way.

[enquirewithin]

^Correct. In general anesthesia benzos are used with ketamine to stop th emergence effects (ie, 'psychedelic' effects).

[Masa]

so this is a no then i guess

[enquirewithin]

Correct. With careful use, stimulants can enhance ketamine visuals.

[Masa]

well SWIM knows that MDMA/XTC can super charge the visuals
but Speed should be NOT be mixed , bad very bad
guess Diazepam must just max the "knock out effect" of K

[enquirewithin]

Originally Posted by Masa

well SWIM knows that MDMA/XTC can super charge the visuals
but Speed should be NOT be mixed , bad very bad
guess Diazepam must just max the "knock out effect" of K

Diazepam just knocks you out (what does it ever do?) MDMA + ketamine can work, but moderation is the key. Beta-ketones can be much better. Perhaps we need a ketamine and stimulants thread?