Combinations - suboxone and 2ct21

[dslexic1]

Swim has been on suboxone for about 2 months now at about 8ms via snorting. Swim is wondering if (hypothetically) he would be safe if he ingested a small dose of 2ct21? like if either of these two compounds have interactions..... like how Xtc and SSRI's interact or the fact that some of the 2c's offers effects like X on the mind. I think swim would be entering unchartered teritory. nonetheless swim is hypothetically antsy at the moment. This is literally my first post on this forum so if its in the wrong place please advise me so.

dslexic1 added 3 Minutes and 57 Seconds later...

Im sorry what i meant was, does anyone think that 2ct21 effects any of the opiate receptors or any are of the brain where noloxone has antogonizing effects, on erowid theres a report how narcan intensified lsd for a labrat

[trptamene]

2ct21 is an odd one ?

Any reason t21 versus t2 or t7 or any 2c for that matter?

Given that I would look for info asking about if suboxone has ssri or similar properties.

[dslexic1]

i really wish i knew how to edit my posts, because i have a habit of not typing what im thinking. To reiterate, i meant all of the first post and wanted to add the second past, i was thinking to scratch what i typed about 2ct21 have like-minded effects as X. It will take some time but i think ill have it figuered out soon enough. lol

[trptamene]

Newbies can't edit. I will fix it so it shows what mean. But as mentioned I think I would try to find more about suboxone and its effects in the brain whatever they may be. I know tramadol is an opioid w/ snri properties and my lab rat certainly wouldnt mix those two. If is similar for suboxone caution would be advised.

[dslexic1]

You are making swim scared because swim rationalized that he had used 2c's lots of times and shouldnt be a problem, but swim forget he wasnt using suboxone at the time. Swim always regrets his dicissions and is thinking about puking this very instant. He noticed neck sharp neck tension directly after he tasted, but also he knows that aniety causes tension. Swim is always safe but never had serious obstacles, swim would also like to not that suboxone is nothing like trammadol, on a secomd not swim is saying he will be right back after he pukes.

dslexic1 added 17 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

He successfully ourged majority of stomache contents 15 mins after ingestion, but still notices effects, he realises now that hes going to have bad body load effects for the rest of the night, thats what swim knows about low 2ct21 doses.

[trptamene]

My nursing handbook does not say anything about there being suboxone interactions w/ ssri's although it does mention maoi's.

tramadol mentions interactions w/ ssri's though and is the one that is known to be the oddball in opiates. I don't really know much about suboxone though.

Swim would not worry too much. Just be sure to do research beforehand next time.

[Panthers007]

Suboxone (buprenorphine) is an actual semi-synthetic opiate. Tramadol is utterly out of the test-tube. Buprenorphine has no known SSRI effects regards serotonin. Any more than does codeine.

I'd hesitate to say such a combination - 2-CT-21 & Bupreorphine - would be "safe." But it likely would be as safe as the parts would be alone. Like the first attempts at Kitty Hawk with Orville & Wilbur Wrights' aircraft, one would want to try short hops before crossing the Atlantic.

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[dslexic1]

thanks for the much valued advice. I figured as much about the safety, but its always comforting to hear from others. Anyway swim, ended up with barely above baseline effects after the paranoid purging.

Ive been reading this forum for sometime now, but I never had the need to post. It feels odd now that im actually participating.

[trptamene]

We seem to be done here.